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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:21, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
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Procedural nomination. This was PRODed by PRehse but there is some evidence of notability in the article, and therefore I am not comfortable deleting via PROD. Vanamonde ( talk) 09:35, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete Fair enough on the proceedure. Abe has yet to compete at the highest level although has some success as a junior. Perhaps worth something in the future but right now is not notable as a judo player. Peter Rehse ( talk) 09:44, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete I think this article was created WP:TOOSOON. She has yet to appear at a world championship event as either a junior or senior and has no Olympic appearances. As far as I can tell, she hasn't even competed at the Japanese national championships as an adult. It may well be that she will become a notable judoka but that requires WP:CRYSTALBALL. Papaursa ( talk) 15:20, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- She did compete at the recently concluded Japanese national championships where she won her first match and lost her second. That's not enough to show WP notability. Papaursa ( talk) 02:23, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
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- These sources appear to be routine sports reporting. Yes, she won an event--one of about 40 annually and Grand Prix events are relatively low level. They rank below Grand Slam events, which rank below Masters events, which rank below the world championships. She's yet to compete at the highest level of her sport.
Papaursa (
talk)
02:23, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- That is an interesting interpretation of routine coverage. See essay
WP:NOTROUTINE#Sports. Box scores and statistics - not articles with headlines like "Abe makes history with Grand Prix win".
Hmlarson (
talk)
18:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- All sourcing refers to her success in one relatively minor event where, according to the IJF media (not at independent source) article cited, the 46th ranked fighter beat the 73rd ranked fighter. That article has 1 sentence on the headline topic (and one about who her brother is) and everything else is quite routine sports reporting. Your headline quote is a bit more breathless than it deserves, given that Grand Prix events are less than 10 years old and are relatively low level one day events. Again, subject also does not meet WP:NSPORT since she has never competed at the highest level. Papaursa ( talk) 23:19, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- That is an interesting interpretation of routine coverage. See essay
WP:NOTROUTINE#Sports. Box scores and statistics - not articles with headlines like "Abe makes history with Grand Prix win".
Hmlarson (
talk)
18:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- These sources appear to be routine sports reporting. Yes, she won an event--one of about 40 annually and Grand Prix events are relatively low level. They rank below Grand Slam events, which rank below Masters events, which rank below the world championships. She's yet to compete at the highest level of her sport.
Papaursa (
talk)
02:23, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:19, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:19, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Delete the Judo Grand Prix doesn't appear to have a page right now, and I have no idea what it is. Power~enwiki ( talk) 18:00, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:21, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
- Uta Abe ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Procedural nomination. This was PRODed by PRehse but there is some evidence of notability in the article, and therefore I am not comfortable deleting via PROD. Vanamonde ( talk) 09:35, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse ( talk) 09:44, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fair enough on the proceedure. Abe has yet to compete at the highest level although has some success as a junior. Perhaps worth something in the future but right now is not notable as a judo player. Peter Rehse ( talk) 09:44, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 00:32, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 00:32, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I think this article was created WP:TOOSOON. She has yet to appear at a world championship event as either a junior or senior and has no Olympic appearances. As far as I can tell, she hasn't even competed at the Japanese national championships as an adult. It may well be that she will become a notable judoka but that requires WP:CRYSTALBALL. Papaursa ( talk) 15:20, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- She did compete at the recently concluded Japanese national championships where she won her first match and lost her second. That's not enough to show WP notability. Papaursa ( talk) 02:23, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 03:54, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- These sources appear to be routine sports reporting. Yes, she won an event--one of about 40 annually and Grand Prix events are relatively low level. They rank below Grand Slam events, which rank below Masters events, which rank below the world championships. She's yet to compete at the highest level of her sport.
Papaursa (
talk)
02:23, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- That is an interesting interpretation of routine coverage. See essay
WP:NOTROUTINE#Sports. Box scores and statistics - not articles with headlines like "Abe makes history with Grand Prix win".
Hmlarson (
talk)
18:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- All sourcing refers to her success in one relatively minor event where, according to the IJF media (not at independent source) article cited, the 46th ranked fighter beat the 73rd ranked fighter. That article has 1 sentence on the headline topic (and one about who her brother is) and everything else is quite routine sports reporting. Your headline quote is a bit more breathless than it deserves, given that Grand Prix events are less than 10 years old and are relatively low level one day events. Again, subject also does not meet WP:NSPORT since she has never competed at the highest level. Papaursa ( talk) 23:19, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- That is an interesting interpretation of routine coverage. See essay
WP:NOTROUTINE#Sports. Box scores and statistics - not articles with headlines like "Abe makes history with Grand Prix win".
Hmlarson (
talk)
18:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- These sources appear to be routine sports reporting. Yes, she won an event--one of about 40 annually and Grand Prix events are relatively low level. They rank below Grand Slam events, which rank below Masters events, which rank below the world championships. She's yet to compete at the highest level of her sport.
Papaursa (
talk)
02:23, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:19, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 11:19, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Delete the Judo Grand Prix doesn't appear to have a page right now, and I have no idea what it is. Power~enwiki ( talk) 18:00, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.