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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Twila True
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Not seeing any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources, either those in the article or elsewhere online - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. Run-of-the-mill businessperson. Typical promotional article, created by a WP:SPA. Edwardx ( talk) 23:20, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Women, and California. Shellwood ( talk) 23:37, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello. The article covers reliable sources please check again. Twila True has received awards. I don't know what you meant by independent in-depth coverage but you can see many news and reliable sources there. If anything in there is look like promotional you can remove that information. But removing a whole article is not necessary I think it should be given a chance. If it can be improved please tell me I will do that. She has founded music academy with two Grammy winners it has sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fanny shower ( talk • contribs) 06:20, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - this is independent in-depth coverage in a reliable source that is in the article:
Twila True’s Heart is in Two Worlds (
Orange County Register, 2015), and this is in-depth coverage in a reliable source of one of the businesses she co-founded that is in the article:
1500 Sound Academy Raises the Volume on Educating Next Generation of Music Creators (
Billboard, 2021).
Beccaynr (
talk)
15:34, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- There is also more significant and in-depth coverage of her:
Wealthy OST woman returns to bring hope to Pine Ridge (
Rapid City Journal, 2015), and attention from
WWD in 2017 that is
mostly an interview.
Beccaynr (
talk)
15:44, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- A reprint of this 2019
Indian Country Today article with significant and in-depth coverage is also in the article:
Seasonal complaint: 'Missionaries are on our reservation!', although it is currently used in a limited manner, and there is also this:
True Sioux Hope Foundation Tours Pine Ridge (
Indian Country Today, 2018) that includes a focus on her.
Beccaynr (
talk)
16:10, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- More significant and in-depth coverage of her: True Sioux Hope Foundation making difference on Pine Ridge ( Rapid City Journal, 2017/2018), and this 2016 Orange County Business Journal article is probably in-depth coverage of her, based on the framing and introduction: True Believer, but it is subscription blocked. There is also this article that focuses on her and another business: Polished Perfect nail salons expand while staying true to founder’s toxic-free commitment (Daily Pilot/LA Times, 2016). Beccaynr ( talk) 16:28, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- A reprint of this 2019
Indian Country Today article with significant and in-depth coverage is also in the article:
Seasonal complaint: 'Missionaries are on our reservation!', although it is currently used in a limited manner, and there is also this:
True Sioux Hope Foundation Tours Pine Ridge (
Indian Country Today, 2018) that includes a focus on her.
Beccaynr (
talk)
16:10, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- There is also more significant and in-depth coverage of her:
Wealthy OST woman returns to bring hope to Pine Ridge (
Rapid City Journal, 2015), and attention from
WWD in 2017 that is
mostly an interview.
Beccaynr (
talk)
15:44, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - based on the sources in my comments above, WP:BASIC/ WP:GNG notability appears supported, although I think the article would benefit from revisions to remove promotional content and to add information from independent and reliable coverage about her. Beccaynr ( talk) 17:08, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep It's all about business and charities, and the coverage is there. I did some work to make the article a bit less promotional, to tone down the citation overkill and to prefer the more reliable sources. Marked a few areas that need work. More editing is needed. Lamona ( talk) 17:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Seeing Beccaynr's comments above, I edited it to make it less PROMO. CT55555 ( talk) 13:05, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Twila True
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Not seeing any independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources, either those in the article or elsewhere online - lack of WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:GNG. Run-of-the-mill businessperson. Typical promotional article, created by a WP:SPA. Edwardx ( talk) 23:20, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Women, and California. Shellwood ( talk) 23:37, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello. The article covers reliable sources please check again. Twila True has received awards. I don't know what you meant by independent in-depth coverage but you can see many news and reliable sources there. If anything in there is look like promotional you can remove that information. But removing a whole article is not necessary I think it should be given a chance. If it can be improved please tell me I will do that. She has founded music academy with two Grammy winners it has sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fanny shower ( talk • contribs) 06:20, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - this is independent in-depth coverage in a reliable source that is in the article:
Twila True’s Heart is in Two Worlds (
Orange County Register, 2015), and this is in-depth coverage in a reliable source of one of the businesses she co-founded that is in the article:
1500 Sound Academy Raises the Volume on Educating Next Generation of Music Creators (
Billboard, 2021).
Beccaynr (
talk)
15:34, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- There is also more significant and in-depth coverage of her:
Wealthy OST woman returns to bring hope to Pine Ridge (
Rapid City Journal, 2015), and attention from
WWD in 2017 that is
mostly an interview.
Beccaynr (
talk)
15:44, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- A reprint of this 2019
Indian Country Today article with significant and in-depth coverage is also in the article:
Seasonal complaint: 'Missionaries are on our reservation!', although it is currently used in a limited manner, and there is also this:
True Sioux Hope Foundation Tours Pine Ridge (
Indian Country Today, 2018) that includes a focus on her.
Beccaynr (
talk)
16:10, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- More significant and in-depth coverage of her: True Sioux Hope Foundation making difference on Pine Ridge ( Rapid City Journal, 2017/2018), and this 2016 Orange County Business Journal article is probably in-depth coverage of her, based on the framing and introduction: True Believer, but it is subscription blocked. There is also this article that focuses on her and another business: Polished Perfect nail salons expand while staying true to founder’s toxic-free commitment (Daily Pilot/LA Times, 2016). Beccaynr ( talk) 16:28, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- A reprint of this 2019
Indian Country Today article with significant and in-depth coverage is also in the article:
Seasonal complaint: 'Missionaries are on our reservation!', although it is currently used in a limited manner, and there is also this:
True Sioux Hope Foundation Tours Pine Ridge (
Indian Country Today, 2018) that includes a focus on her.
Beccaynr (
talk)
16:10, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- There is also more significant and in-depth coverage of her:
Wealthy OST woman returns to bring hope to Pine Ridge (
Rapid City Journal, 2015), and attention from
WWD in 2017 that is
mostly an interview.
Beccaynr (
talk)
15:44, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - based on the sources in my comments above, WP:BASIC/ WP:GNG notability appears supported, although I think the article would benefit from revisions to remove promotional content and to add information from independent and reliable coverage about her. Beccaynr ( talk) 17:08, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep It's all about business and charities, and the coverage is there. I did some work to make the article a bit less promotional, to tone down the citation overkill and to prefer the more reliable sources. Marked a few areas that need work. More editing is needed. Lamona ( talk) 17:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Seeing Beccaynr's comments above, I edited it to make it less PROMO. CT55555 ( talk) 13:05, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.