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Delete and merge some background/planning details into the main
Turkvision Song Contest article. I found reading this article to be very unfortunate and it's a great example of the problems we run into if refs only use primary sources and we don't follow
WP:CRYSTALBALL closely. So many things were "confirmed" it seems except the contest itself and even its cancelation seemed opaque. It's hard to gauge the notability of the contest overall given its appeal to a very specific non-English speaking group, but the nominator is right in that even so, it appears that only Anthony Granger was willing to cover the event, and his source for the information for nearly every ref in this article was the contest's own website. Other English hits on Google were mostly mirrors and other wikis. To
Nederlandse Leeuw, I would support a further consolidation of the Turkvision articles as I feel the contest itself is likely notable, but not each individual edition or selection process.
Grk1011 (
talk)
14:43, 4 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree. I don't think all articles about Turkvision need or should be deleted, least of all the main article. But they do need to be brought into proportion with how notable the contest was. A lot of spin-off articles about selection and performance of country/territory X do not seem to be notable enough for stand-alone articles or lists, like the list of languages that has already been deleted with broad support.
Nederlandse Leeuw (
talk)
15:34, 4 June 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Delete and merge some background/planning details into the main
Turkvision Song Contest article. I found reading this article to be very unfortunate and it's a great example of the problems we run into if refs only use primary sources and we don't follow
WP:CRYSTALBALL closely. So many things were "confirmed" it seems except the contest itself and even its cancelation seemed opaque. It's hard to gauge the notability of the contest overall given its appeal to a very specific non-English speaking group, but the nominator is right in that even so, it appears that only Anthony Granger was willing to cover the event, and his source for the information for nearly every ref in this article was the contest's own website. Other English hits on Google were mostly mirrors and other wikis. To
Nederlandse Leeuw, I would support a further consolidation of the Turkvision articles as I feel the contest itself is likely notable, but not each individual edition or selection process.
Grk1011 (
talk)
14:43, 4 June 2023 (UTC)reply
I agree. I don't think all articles about Turkvision need or should be deleted, least of all the main article. But they do need to be brought into proportion with how notable the contest was. A lot of spin-off articles about selection and performance of country/territory X do not seem to be notable enough for stand-alone articles or lists, like the list of languages that has already been deleted with broad support.
Nederlandse Leeuw (
talk)
15:34, 4 June 2023 (UTC)reply
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