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The result was redirect to Murray County, Georgia as a viable ATD. HIstory remains if a merger is desired Star Mississippi 00:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Treadwell, Georgia
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Here we get a peek into the GNIS process, which actually appears to go back over a century. The post office, everyone seems to agree, was named "Amzi", but GNIS cites a Board of Geog. Names decision which is dated Jan. 12, 1897 in preferring Treadwell. Nonetheless, the name didn't appear on the topos until it was back-added from GNIS, and the latter claims that the source of all its info on the spot comes from ADC maps. I have a lot of experience with the latter (everyone around here used them for street maps before Garmin) and I wouldn't take them as terribly authoritative on this sort of place name— but also, if the name didn't get entered until 1993, what's with the 1897 decision? And where did ADC get the name from?
This leaves us with the 1900-era cyclopedia, which has come up before. It mentions Amzi, but I can't tell whether it also mentions Treadwell, because apparently only the fist volume (A-E) is available online. Again, we have the population figure which doesn't appear to come from the census. Amzi is called a "post-village", which could mean a place that's just a post office. And the authors seem unaware of the BoGN decision. My reading is that this is an area served by a post office, but without evidence that it is a distinct settlement. Mangoe ( talk) 03:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Georgia (U.S. state). WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- There is a more thorough history, which explains why the name Smith Treadwell kept popping up and the whole Treadwell connection, at https://www.murraycountymuseum.com/book_01.html#CHAPTER_IV . It has the school, mill, shop, church, and craft fair. There's parallel coverage in various history books (and presumably contemporary newspaper reports given the citations) about Smith Treadwell's gravestone in the Treadwell cemetery in Spring Place, which weathered in an unusual and suggestive manner in the late 19th century. Uncle G ( talk) 11:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I grew up in the area, and am familliar with many people involved with that book (that Uncleg is talking about), It's practically self published, though. It's also probably about all your going to find history wise on Treadwell or Amzi. Probably not going to be enough sources to write and article. James.folsom ( talk) 00:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- merge to the murray county article I added it to the list there. James.folsom ( talk) 00:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep it has a stated population (though not apparently from a census) and name origin. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 19:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as not encyclopedically notable jengod ( talk) 17:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, no consensus yet. I assume the Merge target article is Murray County, Georgia.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 02:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Murray County, Georgia, almost certainly lacks coverage. Mach61 05:46, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to Murray County, Georgia as a viable ATD. HIstory remains if a merger is desired Star Mississippi 00:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Treadwell, Georgia
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Here we get a peek into the GNIS process, which actually appears to go back over a century. The post office, everyone seems to agree, was named "Amzi", but GNIS cites a Board of Geog. Names decision which is dated Jan. 12, 1897 in preferring Treadwell. Nonetheless, the name didn't appear on the topos until it was back-added from GNIS, and the latter claims that the source of all its info on the spot comes from ADC maps. I have a lot of experience with the latter (everyone around here used them for street maps before Garmin) and I wouldn't take them as terribly authoritative on this sort of place name— but also, if the name didn't get entered until 1993, what's with the 1897 decision? And where did ADC get the name from?
This leaves us with the 1900-era cyclopedia, which has come up before. It mentions Amzi, but I can't tell whether it also mentions Treadwell, because apparently only the fist volume (A-E) is available online. Again, we have the population figure which doesn't appear to come from the census. Amzi is called a "post-village", which could mean a place that's just a post office. And the authors seem unaware of the BoGN decision. My reading is that this is an area served by a post office, but without evidence that it is a distinct settlement. Mangoe ( talk) 03:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Georgia (U.S. state). WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- There is a more thorough history, which explains why the name Smith Treadwell kept popping up and the whole Treadwell connection, at https://www.murraycountymuseum.com/book_01.html#CHAPTER_IV . It has the school, mill, shop, church, and craft fair. There's parallel coverage in various history books (and presumably contemporary newspaper reports given the citations) about Smith Treadwell's gravestone in the Treadwell cemetery in Spring Place, which weathered in an unusual and suggestive manner in the late 19th century. Uncle G ( talk) 11:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I grew up in the area, and am familliar with many people involved with that book (that Uncleg is talking about), It's practically self published, though. It's also probably about all your going to find history wise on Treadwell or Amzi. Probably not going to be enough sources to write and article. James.folsom ( talk) 00:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- merge to the murray county article I added it to the list there. James.folsom ( talk) 00:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep it has a stated population (though not apparently from a census) and name origin. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 19:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as not encyclopedically notable jengod ( talk) 17:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, no consensus yet. I assume the Merge target article is Murray County, Georgia.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 02:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Murray County, Georgia, almost certainly lacks coverage. Mach61 05:46, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.