The result was keep. -- Cirt ( talk) 07:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC) reply
fails WP:BIO. gnews only lists other Tim Hartmans. currently referenced with primary sources. LibStar ( talk) 05:50, 5 October 2010 (UTC) reply
The result was keep. -- Cirt ( talk) 07:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC) reply
fails WP:BIO. gnews only lists other Tim Hartmans. currently referenced with primary sources. LibStar ( talk) 05:50, 5 October 2010 (UTC) reply