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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:24, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
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WP:BLP of a writer and musician, whose claims of notability are not properly referenced. Two of the three footnotes here are the publication details of his own writings, not reliable source coverage by other people, and the third is a glancing namecheck of his existence in an article about somebody else. None of these are notability-supporting sources, however — a writer is not demonstrated as notable by metareferencing the existence of his work to itself, but by referencing the existence of his work to media coverage about his work in sources other than itself. And his notability claim as a musician is that he's "thought to have been" in a band, not that he was verifiably in a band for sure — but notability is conferred on the basis of what a person has verifiably done, not on the basis of what they might maybe have done but nobody can actually verify that for sure. Bearcat ( talk) 17:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete: Per nom. Bearcat, that 15% Pus article also looks dodgy.-- Milowent • has spoken 20:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
I have tried to improve the page with further links and references -- BiBouy ( talk) 11:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- You missed. What you added is more primary sources and WP:SPIP, and there's still not a single reliable or notability-supporting reference present at all. Bearcat ( talk) 16:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Maybe the most salient claim to notability Cooke has is that his book was adapted into a 2003 film. Even the film references just list him as the author of the source material (i.e. no depth). In fact, most sources about his work don't mention him much. Mentions of Cooke in almost any other source are passing at best. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Gargleafg ( talk) 23:09, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sandstein 13:24, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
- Tim Cooke ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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WP:BLP of a writer and musician, whose claims of notability are not properly referenced. Two of the three footnotes here are the publication details of his own writings, not reliable source coverage by other people, and the third is a glancing namecheck of his existence in an article about somebody else. None of these are notability-supporting sources, however — a writer is not demonstrated as notable by metareferencing the existence of his work to itself, but by referencing the existence of his work to media coverage about his work in sources other than itself. And his notability claim as a musician is that he's "thought to have been" in a band, not that he was verifiably in a band for sure — but notability is conferred on the basis of what a person has verifiably done, not on the basis of what they might maybe have done but nobody can actually verify that for sure. Bearcat ( talk) 17:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:10, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:10, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 19:10, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom. Bearcat, that 15% Pus article also looks dodgy.-- Milowent • has spoken 20:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
I have tried to improve the page with further links and references -- BiBouy ( talk) 11:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- You missed. What you added is more primary sources and WP:SPIP, and there's still not a single reliable or notability-supporting reference present at all. Bearcat ( talk) 16:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Maybe the most salient claim to notability Cooke has is that his book was adapted into a 2003 film. Even the film references just list him as the author of the source material (i.e. no depth). In fact, most sources about his work don't mention him much. Mentions of Cooke in almost any other source are passing at best. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Gargleafg ( talk) 23:09, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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