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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Theodore Roosevelt in Oyster Bay
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an unsourced article about roosevelt's activities in oyster bay created by a user called user:inoysterbay violates at least 4 policies and guidelines ( WP:V, WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:GNG, WP:COI). ltb d l ( talk) 02:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - there definitely is a problem here in the fact that this unsourced list is so huge. As we can see by the navbox at the bottom of the article, as well as Category:Theodore Roosevelt, this particular Roosevelt is one of the most fascinating, popular, and overachieving leaders in American history. That said, this is an un-sourced list. Most likely, everything on here can be found in other articles about TR. I have no problem deleting this, if that's what is decided here. — Maile ( talk) 03:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Lists, and New York. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military and Politics. Curbon7 ( talk) 04:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- A quick search turns up quite a lot of published material on this topic. A large portion of (1) this book focuses on TR's connections with Oyster Bay. There's also (2) this piece from Newsday focused on TR's conections to the community. See also (3) this and (4) this. (Newspapers.com retrieves over 650,000 articles for the search (roosevelt "oyster bay") -- it would take a lot of time to comb through). Cbl62 ( talk) 04:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This isn't an encyclopaedia article, unfortunately, just a collection of trivia, and it's really poorly sourced. The problem here is that the information, if sourced, could be added either to the Roosevelt page, to the Oyster Bay page, or is already in other articles, and isn't really a useful navigation link. SportingFlyer T· C 05:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. George W. Bush was noted for spending time at Kennebunkport, but an article George W. Bush in Kennebunkport is not feasible. That is because it would - and Theodore Roosevelt in Oyster Bay is - be a collection of trivia, where the worthy items should be worked into the article Oyster Bay (hamlet), New York, where they currently are unreferenced. Geschichte ( talk) 08:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete besides being a collection of trivia than an actual encyclopedia article, it also violates WP:COI) as the article was created by an actual fan/resident of the place, despite their last edit was in 2010.- Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 13:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Reads like a student essay, then gives an overly long list of times he's visited the place, then stuff associated with him. OR that doesn't really show why this is needing an article here. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete notability aside, article reads almost nonsensical. Juxlos ( talk) 17:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator, others, and WP:NOR. A. Randomdude0000 ( talk) 02:13, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. I do think that a President's summer retreat might be notable and worth an article, but that's why we have an article on the actual place: Sagamore Hill. Any salvageable information from this article might be worth merging into the article on the residence. Dan • ✉ 16:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Theodore Roosevelt in Oyster Bay
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- Theodore Roosevelt in Oyster Bay ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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an unsourced article about roosevelt's activities in oyster bay created by a user called user:inoysterbay violates at least 4 policies and guidelines ( WP:V, WP:INDISCRIMINATE, WP:GNG, WP:COI). ltb d l ( talk) 02:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - there definitely is a problem here in the fact that this unsourced list is so huge. As we can see by the navbox at the bottom of the article, as well as Category:Theodore Roosevelt, this particular Roosevelt is one of the most fascinating, popular, and overachieving leaders in American history. That said, this is an un-sourced list. Most likely, everything on here can be found in other articles about TR. I have no problem deleting this, if that's what is decided here. — Maile ( talk) 03:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Lists, and New York. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military and Politics. Curbon7 ( talk) 04:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- A quick search turns up quite a lot of published material on this topic. A large portion of (1) this book focuses on TR's connections with Oyster Bay. There's also (2) this piece from Newsday focused on TR's conections to the community. See also (3) this and (4) this. (Newspapers.com retrieves over 650,000 articles for the search (roosevelt "oyster bay") -- it would take a lot of time to comb through). Cbl62 ( talk) 04:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This isn't an encyclopaedia article, unfortunately, just a collection of trivia, and it's really poorly sourced. The problem here is that the information, if sourced, could be added either to the Roosevelt page, to the Oyster Bay page, or is already in other articles, and isn't really a useful navigation link. SportingFlyer T· C 05:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. George W. Bush was noted for spending time at Kennebunkport, but an article George W. Bush in Kennebunkport is not feasible. That is because it would - and Theodore Roosevelt in Oyster Bay is - be a collection of trivia, where the worthy items should be worked into the article Oyster Bay (hamlet), New York, where they currently are unreferenced. Geschichte ( talk) 08:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete besides being a collection of trivia than an actual encyclopedia article, it also violates WP:COI) as the article was created by an actual fan/resident of the place, despite their last edit was in 2010.- Tumbuka Arch ( talk) 13:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Reads like a student essay, then gives an overly long list of times he's visited the place, then stuff associated with him. OR that doesn't really show why this is needing an article here. Oaktree b ( talk) 13:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete notability aside, article reads almost nonsensical. Juxlos ( talk) 17:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator, others, and WP:NOR. A. Randomdude0000 ( talk) 02:13, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. I do think that a President's summer retreat might be notable and worth an article, but that's why we have an article on the actual place: Sagamore Hill. Any salvageable information from this article might be worth merging into the article on the residence. Dan • ✉ 16:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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