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The result was redirect to The Weight of Chains#The Weight of Chains 2 . -- RoySmith (talk) 23:46, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply

The Weight of Chains 2

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This seems to be part of the fundraising exercise for this film which is still ongoing. [1] I've removed some copyvio but the official website still says production is to continue into2013, last year. Dougweller ( talk) 15:34, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply

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Since when are Wikipedia articles "fundraising exercies"? Every film made by Boris Malagurski is funded through donations and the donations are open well after the films are on festivals, in cinemas and on television. Aside from that, there are credible sources regarding this film, one of them is the oldest daily newspaper in the Balkans, Politika. You make it seem like the only source is the website. Sure, the article should be expanded from other sources, but deletion? I see no reason. -- UrbanVillager ( talk) 17:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
You can delete it, but someone will recreate this page in January 2015. 'Cause premiere will be in January 2015. -- Kepkke ( talk) 17:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
Exactly, and it's not like there aren't any articles about upcoming movies on Wikipedia. I think this article should be kept, I see no reason for deleting it. -- UrbanVillager ( talk) 17:24, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply
Sounds good to me. I'm willing to drop this if we can be sure the redirect won't be undone. Dougweller ( talk) 18:35, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
I'd respect it if that's the final decision for now (though I disagree with a redirect and think the article should be expanded with more sources), of course, but I'd like to know when it would be possible to write the article again. When the film comes out? -- UrbanVillager ( talk) 18:45, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete I cannot see the point in an article about a film whose 'imminent release' has been announced for a long time, yet whose own website still says it WILL BE released in 2013. Any independent commentary is unlikely to be forthcoming for a long time, there is still little available for the first film, three years after its release. Just to note, that redirects from The Weight of Chains have previously been mysteriously undone several times. At present, much of the text is - or at least was - copy vio from the WoC2 website. Additionally, all info on the article page (interviewees etc.) is already on both the directors page and some of it on The Weight of Chains page, any new info, such as reliable release date, can easily be added to those pages. Pincrete ( talk) 20:38, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
btw … if redirect is decided, the appropriate place would be [2], since this is where this content is already duplicated. Pincrete ( talk) 11:11, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to The Weight of Chains#The Weight of Chains 2 . -- RoySmith (talk) 23:46, 20 September 2014 (UTC) reply

The Weight of Chains 2

The Weight of Chains 2 (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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This seems to be part of the fundraising exercise for this film which is still ongoing. [1] I've removed some copyvio but the official website still says production is to continue into2013, last year. Dougweller ( talk) 15:34, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:40, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:40, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
Since when are Wikipedia articles "fundraising exercies"? Every film made by Boris Malagurski is funded through donations and the donations are open well after the films are on festivals, in cinemas and on television. Aside from that, there are credible sources regarding this film, one of them is the oldest daily newspaper in the Balkans, Politika. You make it seem like the only source is the website. Sure, the article should be expanded from other sources, but deletion? I see no reason. -- UrbanVillager ( talk) 17:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
You can delete it, but someone will recreate this page in January 2015. 'Cause premiere will be in January 2015. -- Kepkke ( talk) 17:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
Exactly, and it's not like there aren't any articles about upcoming movies on Wikipedia. I think this article should be kept, I see no reason for deleting it. -- UrbanVillager ( talk) 17:24, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply
Sounds good to me. I'm willing to drop this if we can be sure the redirect won't be undone. Dougweller ( talk) 18:35, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
I'd respect it if that's the final decision for now (though I disagree with a redirect and think the article should be expanded with more sources), of course, but I'd like to know when it would be possible to write the article again. When the film comes out? -- UrbanVillager ( talk) 18:45, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete I cannot see the point in an article about a film whose 'imminent release' has been announced for a long time, yet whose own website still says it WILL BE released in 2013. Any independent commentary is unlikely to be forthcoming for a long time, there is still little available for the first film, three years after its release. Just to note, that redirects from The Weight of Chains have previously been mysteriously undone several times. At present, much of the text is - or at least was - copy vio from the WoC2 website. Additionally, all info on the article page (interviewees etc.) is already on both the directors page and some of it on The Weight of Chains page, any new info, such as reliable release date, can easily be added to those pages. Pincrete ( talk) 20:38, 12 September 2014 (UTC) reply
btw … if redirect is decided, the appropriate place would be [2], since this is where this content is already duplicated. Pincrete ( talk) 11:11, 13 September 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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