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The result was redirect to TransTales Entertainment. It's not clear that the redirect is really warranted, but I have a pretty low bar for redirects -- RoySmith (talk) 20:56, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NF as a non-notable unreleased film. It has contained WP:COPYVIOs since it was created. See the page history for what's been done so far (PROD with endorsement, G12, redirect, recreate...) This could just as easily be listed at WP:CP but since there are notability issues as well I think the article should be deleted in its entirety. -- ElHef ( Meep?) 19:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete and redirect to TransTales Entertainment. I remember redirecting this to TTE's article, but it looks like that was reverted. Given the complete lack of coverage by any reliable source (other than one press release reprinting), I think it's highly unlikely that this film will gain enough coverage to merit an article. I have to say that I'm still unsure as to whether or not there's enough notability for TTE to merit an article, as they've only received a very small amount of coverage for their films, despite the claim that one of the movies won an award. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:49, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Additional: I also have some serious concerns that the original editor is a representative for TTE or has been otherwise asked to create the article, as he seems to be a SPA for TTE related articles. I've found some evidence to support these concerns in places such as here and here. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:52, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- I've listed the company at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TransTales Entertainment, so if this company doesn't survive (I put it at a 50/50 chance) then this would be a delete on my end. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to TransTales Entertainment. Does not meet WP:NOTFILM. — Josh3580 talk/ hist 20:29, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Do not delete. This is a major film soon to premier at Annecy festival. Do your research about TransTales Entertainment multiple award winning company and the biggest African animation company. VARIETY MAGAZINE 2010 http://variety.com/2010/digital/news/animator-toons-up-african-tales-1118029555/.
- So far the sources you've brought up in either article have been posted in reliable sources or are press releases. We need more than that to show notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:27, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- It is on IMDB, on Variety on several websites, google the title "The Secret Princess by Transtales" — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrexMafia ( talk • contribs) 06:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- IMDb doesn't count towards notability and the Variety article counts as one source. If they write multiple articles about the movie or company then that's different, but the reposting of one article on various different websites does not count as multiple sources. Googling the film brings up a lot of press releases and links on places that we cannot use as a reliable source. There just isn't enough coverage out there to show notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - I do not see the significant coverage in multiple ndependent reliable sources that would establish notability. -- Whpq ( talk) 17:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to TransTales Entertainment. It's not clear that the redirect is really warranted, but I have a pretty low bar for redirects -- RoySmith (talk) 20:56, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NF as a non-notable unreleased film. It has contained WP:COPYVIOs since it was created. See the page history for what's been done so far (PROD with endorsement, G12, redirect, recreate...) This could just as easily be listed at WP:CP but since there are notability issues as well I think the article should be deleted in its entirety. -- ElHef ( Meep?) 19:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete and redirect to TransTales Entertainment. I remember redirecting this to TTE's article, but it looks like that was reverted. Given the complete lack of coverage by any reliable source (other than one press release reprinting), I think it's highly unlikely that this film will gain enough coverage to merit an article. I have to say that I'm still unsure as to whether or not there's enough notability for TTE to merit an article, as they've only received a very small amount of coverage for their films, despite the claim that one of the movies won an award. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:49, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Additional: I also have some serious concerns that the original editor is a representative for TTE or has been otherwise asked to create the article, as he seems to be a SPA for TTE related articles. I've found some evidence to support these concerns in places such as here and here. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:52, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- I've listed the company at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TransTales Entertainment, so if this company doesn't survive (I put it at a 50/50 chance) then this would be a delete on my end. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to TransTales Entertainment. Does not meet WP:NOTFILM. — Josh3580 talk/ hist 20:29, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
- Do not delete. This is a major film soon to premier at Annecy festival. Do your research about TransTales Entertainment multiple award winning company and the biggest African animation company. VARIETY MAGAZINE 2010 http://variety.com/2010/digital/news/animator-toons-up-african-tales-1118029555/.
- So far the sources you've brought up in either article have been posted in reliable sources or are press releases. We need more than that to show notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:27, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- It is on IMDB, on Variety on several websites, google the title "The Secret Princess by Transtales" — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrexMafia ( talk • contribs) 06:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- IMDb doesn't count towards notability and the Variety article counts as one source. If they write multiple articles about the movie or company then that's different, but the reposting of one article on various different websites does not count as multiple sources. Googling the film brings up a lot of press releases and links on places that we cannot use as a reliable source. There just isn't enough coverage out there to show notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - I do not see the significant coverage in multiple ndependent reliable sources that would establish notability. -- Whpq ( talk) 17:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
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