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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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Non notable film (per google search). Jax 0677 ( talk) 17:36, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and United States of America. Deltaspace42 ( talk • contribs) 17:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hmmm. All tags, declined Prod and Afd by the same user today....for a Oliver Hardy film, stating bluntly that it is ’’non notable (per google search)’’ is in my view a bit extreme. At the very least a redirect should have been considered. Still, my !vote is that this being 1 of the few films Hardy directed for Vim it can have its own article. So Keep. Added a few sources for verification (and removed the 1 source tag that had been added today...) . The film plot was added and adding it to Hardy’s filmo would not be easy, which is one more reason to keep the page as a standalone article.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: for a film as old as this, the likelihood that Google is going to find coverage is unlikely. You're gonna wanna check US newspaper/magazine archives for this one. Also worth noting that WP:BEFORE says the bare minimum isn't just a regular Google search, but also Google Books, News, and News archive, plus suggesting Google Scholar and The Wikipedia Library. Not to assume anything, but "per google search" doesn't immediately suggest to me that you were as thorough as asked. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 10:35, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment the pagename The Other Girl is also subject to a primary topic rename. See Talk:The Other Girl -- 65.92.247.66 ( talk) 08:55, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Keep the AF1 reference here shows contemporary coverage in The Moving Picture World Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC)- It's about another Other girl, though. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- thanks, struck comment Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:25, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 03:43, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: per nomination. बिनोद थारू ( talk) 15:57, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Any Oliver Hardy film is by definition notable and, in this film, he is both the star and director. Also, there are a number of sources, as listed under The Other Girl (film)#References that confirm the film's release and its positioning in film history. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 04:16, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per User:Mushy Yank and User:Roman Spinner above. While existing coverage is thin its role in Hardy's career is extensive enough it definately shouldn't be a red link and for a film of this vintage hard copy sources are likely to exist so a simple Google search is abviously inadequate to demonstrate non-notability. Eluchil404 ( talk) 01:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, decent sourcing and article, and the nomination statement "Non notable film (per google search)" is one of the worse. Geschichte ( talk) 07:48, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per sources added. Toughpigs ( talk) 04:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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- The Other Girl (film) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Non notable film (per google search). Jax 0677 ( talk) 17:36, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and United States of America. Deltaspace42 ( talk • contribs) 17:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hmmm. All tags, declined Prod and Afd by the same user today....for a Oliver Hardy film, stating bluntly that it is ’’non notable (per google search)’’ is in my view a bit extreme. At the very least a redirect should have been considered. Still, my !vote is that this being 1 of the few films Hardy directed for Vim it can have its own article. So Keep. Added a few sources for verification (and removed the 1 source tag that had been added today...) . The film plot was added and adding it to Hardy’s filmo would not be easy, which is one more reason to keep the page as a standalone article.- My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:53, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: for a film as old as this, the likelihood that Google is going to find coverage is unlikely. You're gonna wanna check US newspaper/magazine archives for this one. Also worth noting that WP:BEFORE says the bare minimum isn't just a regular Google search, but also Google Books, News, and News archive, plus suggesting Google Scholar and The Wikipedia Library. Not to assume anything, but "per google search" doesn't immediately suggest to me that you were as thorough as asked. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 10:35, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment the pagename The Other Girl is also subject to a primary topic rename. See Talk:The Other Girl -- 65.92.247.66 ( talk) 08:55, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Keep the AF1 reference here shows contemporary coverage in The Moving Picture World Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:02, 26 December 2023 (UTC)- It's about another Other girl, though. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- thanks, struck comment Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:25, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 03:43, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: per nomination. बिनोद थारू ( talk) 15:57, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Any Oliver Hardy film is by definition notable and, in this film, he is both the star and director. Also, there are a number of sources, as listed under The Other Girl (film)#References that confirm the film's release and its positioning in film history. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 04:16, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per User:Mushy Yank and User:Roman Spinner above. While existing coverage is thin its role in Hardy's career is extensive enough it definately shouldn't be a red link and for a film of this vintage hard copy sources are likely to exist so a simple Google search is abviously inadequate to demonstrate non-notability. Eluchil404 ( talk) 01:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, decent sourcing and article, and the nomination statement "Non notable film (per google search)" is one of the worse. Geschichte ( talk) 07:48, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per sources added. Toughpigs ( talk) 04:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.