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The result was Keep. ( non-admin closure) . Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 00:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
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List of films that contains one film, a list is not needed BOVINEBOY 2008 21:58, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Actually there is more than one film in this film series. There's A Fairly Odd Christmas and A Fairly Odd Summer. Gccwang ( talk) 03:29, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
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- ?? Why delete an expandable stub? How about a sensible renaming and to The Fairly Oddparents (franchise) ?? Schmidt, Michael Q. 00:54, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- All this info is already at List of The Fairly OddParents episodes. I don't think we need a separate article just for television films in the series. But that is just my view. BOVINEBOY 2008 01:06, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Bovineboy... I agree that a "film series" article is inappropriate when there is only one film and no "series"... but a franchise article covering the television series, film, toys, games, videos, etc. is a reasonable future consideration. Has the author been approached with this franchise idea? Schmidt, Michael Q. 02:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment: I'm somewhat leaning towards improving the article rather than deletion, as this seems to be about the live action film series as opposed to the cartoon series. Both the animated series and the LA series are owned by the same people, but they aren't technically in the same universe. I'm not trying to pull an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS type of deal (since there are some differences between the two series coverage-wise), but I think that the article creator was trying to do something similar to Rebuild of Evangelion, where they list the live action movies on a page separate from the animated films so they could highlight the differences. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Also, given that there are some issues with notability on the later films, they could redirect to this page in particular as opposed to having individual film articles. Basically my big concern here is that while this does fall under the franchise, this isn't part of the main series- not really. It's pretty distinctly separate and while the three films are canon in their own universe, they're not canon in the main FOP universe. Some sort of separate distinction needs to be made since while they are part of the franchise, they're not really "episodes" of the main animated series per se. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:36, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've also corrected the title for the article for capitalization and to reflect that this is about the live action series specifically as opposed to the animated films that were released as separate entities from this one. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:47, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per Tokyogirl79's improvements addressing the nominator's concerns toward the stub he nominated. Nice work. Very nice. Schmidt, Michael Q. 06:19, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per Tokyogirl's improvements, but in line with MOS, suggesting a renaming to List of The Fairly OddParents live-action films ((I know, another renaming after The Fairly OddParents (live action film series)), but a little more descriptive and clear as a franchise would be more than one film a year. Nate • ( chatter) 06:27, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know... the problem with that is that this could potentially become an article on all of the details of the film series as a whole. For example, the specific aspects of the LA film series, like scripts, character development specific to the films, and so on. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:33, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Not arguing with the franchise thing, just that this could very well be more than just a list of movies and could be something like the main FOP article itself, so people would probably re-name it because it technically wasn't a list. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. I've done some editing to show that this is about the live action films specifically and I've done some editing on the other pages (like episode list) to reflect on that as well. The thing to remember here is that there were some animated films made for the series, but they were eventually sliced up into episode format. I've no doubt that they were made with the idea that this would eventually happen, but they were still made as part of longer animated films. The live action films are distinctly separate from the animated series and it's important to note that somewhere in the cascade of FOP pages. The LA franchise is notable enough for its own page, in my opinion. It also serves the side benefit of being a redirect point for the third film in the franchise, as that film doesn't seem to have received enough media attention to warrant a separate article at this point in time. In any case, a keep on my end. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:33, 14 August 2014 (UTC).
- Keep. This Artical is completely legit and is capeable of being something that would be information freindly. Just a few changes should be made. (1) The Title should just be renamed to something a little more simple than: Fairlyodd parents (Live action Film-Series). I say The Fairlyodd parents (film series). And (2) The cast section must be redone into a colspan version than just a Box with the present and un - Present cast. If these 2 changes can be made. Than i say KEEP. Beside im the one who created this artical by a small portion. A user named Tokyogirl79 finished it in a Questionable manor. ( Zucat)
- I'm actually curious as to what you found questionable about my edits as they're pretty standard for most film and film-related articles. In any case, about the other things: We try to avoid using collapsible sections when it comes to articles- the only real time I've seen collapsible fields regularly used is in track listings in large pages. I would also recommend against naming it just "film series" because there are animated films in the FOP series and that were released as such on DVD and on TV. Specifying that these are live action is a pretty normal course of action. I'd also like to caution you against making conditional keep arguments in this manner, since this comes across as you trying to claim WP:OWNERSHIP of the article and nobody owns a Wikipedia article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 19:27, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
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The result was Keep. ( non-admin closure) . Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 00:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
- The Fairly Oddparents (Film series) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
List of films that contains one film, a list is not needed BOVINEBOY 2008 21:58, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Actually there is more than one film in this film series. There's A Fairly Odd Christmas and A Fairly Odd Summer. Gccwang ( talk) 03:29, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 23:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Jinkinson talk to me 23:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- ?? Why delete an expandable stub? How about a sensible renaming and to The Fairly Oddparents (franchise) ?? Schmidt, Michael Q. 00:54, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- All this info is already at List of The Fairly OddParents episodes. I don't think we need a separate article just for television films in the series. But that is just my view. BOVINEBOY 2008 01:06, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Bovineboy... I agree that a "film series" article is inappropriate when there is only one film and no "series"... but a franchise article covering the television series, film, toys, games, videos, etc. is a reasonable future consideration. Has the author been approached with this franchise idea? Schmidt, Michael Q. 02:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 02:12, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 02:12, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm somewhat leaning towards improving the article rather than deletion, as this seems to be about the live action film series as opposed to the cartoon series. Both the animated series and the LA series are owned by the same people, but they aren't technically in the same universe. I'm not trying to pull an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS type of deal (since there are some differences between the two series coverage-wise), but I think that the article creator was trying to do something similar to Rebuild of Evangelion, where they list the live action movies on a page separate from the animated films so they could highlight the differences. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Also, given that there are some issues with notability on the later films, they could redirect to this page in particular as opposed to having individual film articles. Basically my big concern here is that while this does fall under the franchise, this isn't part of the main series- not really. It's pretty distinctly separate and while the three films are canon in their own universe, they're not canon in the main FOP universe. Some sort of separate distinction needs to be made since while they are part of the franchise, they're not really "episodes" of the main animated series per se. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:36, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- I've also corrected the title for the article for capitalization and to reflect that this is about the live action series specifically as opposed to the animated films that were released as separate entities from this one. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:47, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per Tokyogirl79's improvements addressing the nominator's concerns toward the stub he nominated. Nice work. Very nice. Schmidt, Michael Q. 06:19, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per Tokyogirl's improvements, but in line with MOS, suggesting a renaming to List of The Fairly OddParents live-action films ((I know, another renaming after The Fairly OddParents (live action film series)), but a little more descriptive and clear as a franchise would be more than one film a year. Nate • ( chatter) 06:27, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know... the problem with that is that this could potentially become an article on all of the details of the film series as a whole. For example, the specific aspects of the LA film series, like scripts, character development specific to the films, and so on. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:33, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Not arguing with the franchise thing, just that this could very well be more than just a list of movies and could be something like the main FOP article itself, so people would probably re-name it because it technically wasn't a list. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. I've done some editing to show that this is about the live action films specifically and I've done some editing on the other pages (like episode list) to reflect on that as well. The thing to remember here is that there were some animated films made for the series, but they were eventually sliced up into episode format. I've no doubt that they were made with the idea that this would eventually happen, but they were still made as part of longer animated films. The live action films are distinctly separate from the animated series and it's important to note that somewhere in the cascade of FOP pages. The LA franchise is notable enough for its own page, in my opinion. It also serves the side benefit of being a redirect point for the third film in the franchise, as that film doesn't seem to have received enough media attention to warrant a separate article at this point in time. In any case, a keep on my end. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:33, 14 August 2014 (UTC).
- Keep. This Artical is completely legit and is capeable of being something that would be information freindly. Just a few changes should be made. (1) The Title should just be renamed to something a little more simple than: Fairlyodd parents (Live action Film-Series). I say The Fairlyodd parents (film series). And (2) The cast section must be redone into a colspan version than just a Box with the present and un - Present cast. If these 2 changes can be made. Than i say KEEP. Beside im the one who created this artical by a small portion. A user named Tokyogirl79 finished it in a Questionable manor. ( Zucat)
- I'm actually curious as to what you found questionable about my edits as they're pretty standard for most film and film-related articles. In any case, about the other things: We try to avoid using collapsible sections when it comes to articles- the only real time I've seen collapsible fields regularly used is in track listings in large pages. I would also recommend against naming it just "film series" because there are animated films in the FOP series and that were released as such on DVD and on TV. Specifying that these are live action is a pretty normal course of action. I'd also like to caution you against making conditional keep arguments in this manner, since this comes across as you trying to claim WP:OWNERSHIP of the article and nobody owns a Wikipedia article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 19:27, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.