The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Sandstein 09:30, 11 November 2018 (UTC) reply

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I thought the mass deletion of the UAE stubs were over but it isn't. The coordinates for this place points to the sea which is a very strange place to find a "location" and it fails WP:V. Pkbwcgs ( talk) 09:47, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor 10:00, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor 10:00, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply

• Comment: The pin is in the water, that we could fix. Judging from a map, it would be a settlement of Dibba Al-Fujairah on the Ras Dibba headland. There are a few hits on "suwayfah" dibba; could Alexandermcnabb weigh in here? Sam Sailor 10:35, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply
• Comment You can't read too much into the pin being in the water at all. It's possibly accurate, but it's only precise to several kilometers with only decimals and minutes - no seconds. That being said, I have no opinion of the article itself. SportingFlyer talk 12:32, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply
• Comment: At Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request#Gazetteer_of_the_United_Arab_Emirates I'm trying to get access to the table of contents and index of the cited source so people can request specific page numbers to verify content. The source was cited but with no page numbers :( WhisperToMe ( talk) 13:53, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply
  • @ WhisperToMe: That source is the cause of all these deletions, it is fully unreliable. See Alexandermcnabbs comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zidm. There is an online site that uses the same database and the entries for Suwayfah are here and here. Spinning Spark 19:51, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply
    • @ Spinningspark: Thanks for the answer! Please go to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Hundreds_of_garbage_articles_created_by_blocked_user and explain the source there. At first people were suspecting the creator was making things up... WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:47, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply
• Comment: Suwayfah's a thing, which is why it survived the cull. As Sam says, we can fix the pin. But Suwayfah's one of the rare nuggets of gold in that big, brown pile... Best Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 14:23, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply
• Comment Found this [1] Seems to be close to shore. scope_creep ( talk) 14:34, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply
• Keep per Alexandermcnabb. It is shown on gmaps as a coastal town close to, but not quite, on the coords in the article. I've moved the coords to the centre of the populated part based on the satellite view. Spinning Spark 19:51, 21 October 2018 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nomination on account of subject failing WP:GEOLAND. A location on the map, whether on dry land or in the water, has to have something beyond mere existence. A verifiably extant something. - The Gnome ( talk) 11:07, 29 October 2018 (UTC) reply

• Comment. For those who don't know, Alexandermcnabb lives in the UAE and speaks Arabic. He has been the leading light in getting deleted all the UAE rubbish created by John Carter. When he says the place exists, is populated, and that is what it is called, you can be sure that is. He will actually have been there. That's good enough for me. Spinning Spark 09:15, 31 October 2018 (UTC) reply

Comment: Maybe this subject does deserve an article in Wikipedia. But we cannot allow it to happen on the basis of editors' personal testimony! Our own experience does not count as a Wikireliable source. And the subject is far from something that is blatantly obvious. - The Gnome ( talk) 11:45, 2 November 2018 (UTC) reply

It's not much, but several booking sites offer multiple hotels in Suwayfah. The Fairmont Fujairah Beach Resort, for instance, describes itself as being located there. Suwayfah is clearly a big holiday playground with multiple hotels, and gmaps satellite view shows a substantial marina. It's surprising we can't find more online, but existence at least, seems proven. Spinning Spark 13:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC) reply

• Weak keep - click on the show on map link here [ [2]] and then zoom out - you'll see it. There appear to be several resorts and restaurants. So I'd say it does just barely pass WP:GEOLAND. However, it really doesn't matter one way or another, since the article is a one sentence stub - if it's important for any reason yet is deleted, it can easily be restored. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC) reply
• Delete per The Gnome's rationale. We're still not even sure what it is so we can't decide whether to apply WP:GEOFEAT or WP:GEOLAND. A one-sentence article asserting that something exists at X, Y isn't an article which passes WP:GNG. StraussInTheHouse ( talk) 18:58, 9 November 2018 (UTC) reply
• Keep, mr mcnabb has culled dozens of these stubs and reckons this one exists, I've no reason to disagree. Szzuk ( talk) 08:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.