- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Most of the keep arguments came from four editors with very limited history, who made all of their edits in a narrow range of india-related topics, and who offer no policy-based reasoning to keep. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:22, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- PS: see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jvchawla -- RoySmith (talk) 13:29, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Sudarshan Venu
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Unsourced "article" about a non-notable scion of a business family; appears to have been created by his publicist, who is demanding that we remove the no-index on the article to improve search results. Orange Mike | Talk 23:54, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:27, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:27, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - well, there is one source now, but it doesn't look like the subject meets the requirements for WP:ANYBIO. PohranicniStraze ( talk) 02:40, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. No evidence of notability. The only source cited is to an interview with the subject and so not independent. Maproom ( talk) 22:45, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Added reliable sources from media and other websites as evidence of notability. Have also Edited any possible contentious content, added recent awards and added information on his nomination by Government of India to be a member of the National Board of Electric Mobility - he was also recently awarded as India's leading young business leader by leading business publication, The Economic Times. jvchawla ( talk) 08:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The article is backed by multiple credible sources including Forbes India, The Economic Times and The Hindu Business Line. The person is a notable Indian business leader and has also been awarded by one of India's leading business publications. No section of the article is of promotional nature. EditorRutt ( talk) 09:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Plenty of reliable sources. No contentious content. Sund90 ( talk) 09:19, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:05, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:05, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: The question which was asked about who are the "we" who "want TVS Motor JMD's (Sudarshan Venu) Wiki Profile Page to be shown up in Search Results" remains unanswered. Either / both a WP:DISCLOSE and a COI tag are needed. AllyD ( talk) 06:27, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: This is a profile suitable for a corporate website and much less so for an encyclopaedia. While I can see routine announcements such as the appointment of the subject and his sister to director positions in the family business [1], I don't see this or the subject's role as one of the industry appointments to a Board or appearance on a "40 under 40" list as indicative of attained biographical notability. AllyD ( talk) 06:40, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources seem to point towards notable achievements, especially his nomination by the Government of India to the National Board of Electric Mobility. Shiprajohar ( talk) 13:00, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To further discuss whether the new sources establish notability under WP:BASIC
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 18:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: To further discuss whether the new sources establish notability under WP:BASIC
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 18:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete -- promotionalism on an insignificant business executive. Coverate is routine and / or WP:SPIP, as in:
- Sudarshan Venu is the Joint Managing Director of TVS Motor Company. He is also a Member of the Board at Sundaram-Clayton Ltd.[9] In addition, he set up Emerald Haven (Realty) and TVS Credit Services (non-deposit NBFC). He serves on both these boards! Etc.
- The "Keep" votes are mostly from SPAs who have offered no sources. K.e.coffman ( talk) 03:57, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: Being the creator of the article, I have edited it to retain information that showcases his credibility which is verified by reliable media sources. He is the Joint MD of India's third largest two-wheeler manufacturer and is a significant young business leader. The media sources too showcase evidence of notability. jvchawla ( talk) 08:52, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete routine coverage for the purpose of creating a WP:NOTLINKEDIN profile. — fortuna velut luna 10:06, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOT. I hate to go against AGF, but it's clear that these keep votes are from sock puppets. DrStrauss talk 14:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Per EditorRutt. The sudden arrival of the accoutns does look suspicious to me, if someone wants to either file the spi or contact a CU I endroes that decision. I will neither be TNTing the page or contacting a CU tonight as I am busy. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 01:02, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Most of the keep arguments came from four editors with very limited history, who made all of their edits in a narrow range of india-related topics, and who offer no policy-based reasoning to keep. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:22, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- PS: see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jvchawla -- RoySmith (talk) 13:29, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Sudarshan Venu
- Sudarshan Venu ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Unsourced "article" about a non-notable scion of a business family; appears to have been created by his publicist, who is demanding that we remove the no-index on the article to improve search results. Orange Mike | Talk 23:54, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:27, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 00:27, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - well, there is one source now, but it doesn't look like the subject meets the requirements for WP:ANYBIO. PohranicniStraze ( talk) 02:40, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. No evidence of notability. The only source cited is to an interview with the subject and so not independent. Maproom ( talk) 22:45, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Added reliable sources from media and other websites as evidence of notability. Have also Edited any possible contentious content, added recent awards and added information on his nomination by Government of India to be a member of the National Board of Electric Mobility - he was also recently awarded as India's leading young business leader by leading business publication, The Economic Times. jvchawla ( talk) 08:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. The article is backed by multiple credible sources including Forbes India, The Economic Times and The Hindu Business Line. The person is a notable Indian business leader and has also been awarded by one of India's leading business publications. No section of the article is of promotional nature. EditorRutt ( talk) 09:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Plenty of reliable sources. No contentious content. Sund90 ( talk) 09:19, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:05, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:05, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: The question which was asked about who are the "we" who "want TVS Motor JMD's (Sudarshan Venu) Wiki Profile Page to be shown up in Search Results" remains unanswered. Either / both a WP:DISCLOSE and a COI tag are needed. AllyD ( talk) 06:27, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete: This is a profile suitable for a corporate website and much less so for an encyclopaedia. While I can see routine announcements such as the appointment of the subject and his sister to director positions in the family business [1], I don't see this or the subject's role as one of the industry appointments to a Board or appearance on a "40 under 40" list as indicative of attained biographical notability. AllyD ( talk) 06:40, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources seem to point towards notable achievements, especially his nomination by the Government of India to the National Board of Electric Mobility. Shiprajohar ( talk) 13:00, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To further discuss whether the new sources establish notability under WP:BASIC
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 18:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: To further discuss whether the new sources establish notability under WP:BASIC
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So Why 18:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete -- promotionalism on an insignificant business executive. Coverate is routine and / or WP:SPIP, as in:
- Sudarshan Venu is the Joint Managing Director of TVS Motor Company. He is also a Member of the Board at Sundaram-Clayton Ltd.[9] In addition, he set up Emerald Haven (Realty) and TVS Credit Services (non-deposit NBFC). He serves on both these boards! Etc.
- The "Keep" votes are mostly from SPAs who have offered no sources. K.e.coffman ( talk) 03:57, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: Being the creator of the article, I have edited it to retain information that showcases his credibility which is verified by reliable media sources. He is the Joint MD of India's third largest two-wheeler manufacturer and is a significant young business leader. The media sources too showcase evidence of notability. jvchawla ( talk) 08:52, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete routine coverage for the purpose of creating a WP:NOTLINKEDIN profile. — fortuna velut luna 10:06, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOT. I hate to go against AGF, but it's clear that these keep votes are from sock puppets. DrStrauss talk 14:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Per EditorRutt. The sudden arrival of the accoutns does look suspicious to me, if someone wants to either file the spi or contact a CU I endroes that decision. I will neither be TNTing the page or contacting a CU tonight as I am busy. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 01:02, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.