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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 19:03, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
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non-notable ice hockey player. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 01:30, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: Füglister is the captain of the Philippines men's national ice hockey team, which may indicate some notability. The problem is that there is not much written about him, only a couple of articles on my search (and he is only mentioned--the articles are not about him). However, the Philippine Star does mention his name prominently in two articles. In one article he is the first player on the team mentioned (as one of the "prospects"). However, that may not be enough to make him notable. Whether or not we consider him notable may rest on how notable we regard the Philippines men's national ice hockey team. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 02:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I think the question lies in the interpretation of WP:NHOCKEY and how it translate that rule to a non-North American context. Another item to consider is whether the Philippine Star and IIHF articles establish enough notability to satisfy WP:GNG. OhanaUnited Talk page 17:15, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete: NHOCKEY doesn't need any "interpretation" here -- there is just no part of it under which the subject comes remotely close to passing. As a pro, his career in the Swiss mid-minors is far too low for notice. Far from having played in the A pool at the World Championships, the Phillipine national team is a new startup that joined the IIHF less than a year ago and has never played at any level in the Worlds, never mind the Olympics. As far as the GNG goes, we need far less to consider whether the Philippine Star or the IIHF constitute reliable sources (the former does, at least) than to recognize that those cites don't meet the GNG at all: the Star source does nothing more than mention his name in a list of other names, the second only quotes him, longstanding practice being that a source consisting solely of quotes from a subject does not support the notability of the subject. Neither provides the "significant coverage" in detail that the GNG requires. Ravenswing 22:15, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - Probably WP:TOOSOON at best considering how new the Philippines is in the IIHF. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 09:56, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete A retired third division swiss league player who has had no significant coverage. 18abruce ( talk) 15:07, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Doesn't come close to meeting either WP:NHOCKEY or WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 02:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - non-notable sportsperson. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 00:21, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 19:03, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
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non-notable ice hockey player. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 01:30, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: Füglister is the captain of the Philippines men's national ice hockey team, which may indicate some notability. The problem is that there is not much written about him, only a couple of articles on my search (and he is only mentioned--the articles are not about him). However, the Philippine Star does mention his name prominently in two articles. In one article he is the first player on the team mentioned (as one of the "prospects"). However, that may not be enough to make him notable. Whether or not we consider him notable may rest on how notable we regard the Philippines men's national ice hockey team. Garagepunk66 ( talk) 02:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Comment I think the question lies in the interpretation of WP:NHOCKEY and how it translate that rule to a non-North American context. Another item to consider is whether the Philippine Star and IIHF articles establish enough notability to satisfy WP:GNG. OhanaUnited Talk page 17:15, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete: NHOCKEY doesn't need any "interpretation" here -- there is just no part of it under which the subject comes remotely close to passing. As a pro, his career in the Swiss mid-minors is far too low for notice. Far from having played in the A pool at the World Championships, the Phillipine national team is a new startup that joined the IIHF less than a year ago and has never played at any level in the Worlds, never mind the Olympics. As far as the GNG goes, we need far less to consider whether the Philippine Star or the IIHF constitute reliable sources (the former does, at least) than to recognize that those cites don't meet the GNG at all: the Star source does nothing more than mention his name in a list of other names, the second only quotes him, longstanding practice being that a source consisting solely of quotes from a subject does not support the notability of the subject. Neither provides the "significant coverage" in detail that the GNG requires. Ravenswing 22:15, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - Probably WP:TOOSOON at best considering how new the Philippines is in the IIHF. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 09:56, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete A retired third division swiss league player who has had no significant coverage. 18abruce ( talk) 15:07, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Doesn't come close to meeting either WP:NHOCKEY or WP:GNG. Papaursa ( talk) 02:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - non-notable sportsperson. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 00:21, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
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