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The result was merge to Serles. Sandstein 06:38, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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Can't find a single reference for Sonnenstein as the name of a mountain in Austria. There's no corresponding article in any other language to compare it to or check for references. The German article for Serles, the mountain it's supposedly related to ( De:Serles), doesn't mention it at all (or even make reference to a supposed Trinity of Serles). The NGA GeoNames server doesn't list it, and it's quite comprehensive. There's just nothing to find that I can see. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 11:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Nom comment: no objection to closing as merge. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 15:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment There’s a tour operator offering hikes up it, a hiking route, and a hotel halfway up the mountain, so there’s no doubt it exists. Mccapra ( talk) 18:47, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to Serles. It is a part of that mountain, one of the lower peaks map.-- Pontificalibus 13:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
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WP:GEOLAND. No shortage of book sources for mere existence, and some have information that goes beyond that,
- Sight-seeing in Germany and the Tyrol in the Autumn of 1855, "In many cases the covering of wood is more extensive; and on some of the boldest and loftiest of mounstains, as on the Sonnenstein on the left bank, it reaches to their very summit in the most luxurious profusion."
- Chambers's Journal, "...you soon find it girdled by huge mountains...the gigantic Traunstein, six thousand feet high on the south side, and Sonnenstein opposite." and later "From the huge forest-clad pinnacle of Sonnenstein, the plateau descends softly...in an egg-shaped promonatory...into the lake."
- Catharine Merrill, Life and Letters, "Waldrest is on Mt. Sonnenstein, not on the top, but nearly half way up, and Sonnenstein is one of the highest mountains around Innsbruck. The giant Solstein, a grim, black, sullen monster, which frowns down on the very streets of the city, ..."
- Merge to Serles. This appears to be one of the peaks of that mountain, per Pontificalibus, and possibly a name previously used for the whole mountain, per the sources found by Spinningspark, the most recent of which is dated 1934. Phil Bridger ( talk) 10:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Serles. Sandstein 06:38, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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Can't find a single reference for Sonnenstein as the name of a mountain in Austria. There's no corresponding article in any other language to compare it to or check for references. The German article for Serles, the mountain it's supposedly related to ( De:Serles), doesn't mention it at all (or even make reference to a supposed Trinity of Serles). The NGA GeoNames server doesn't list it, and it's quite comprehensive. There's just nothing to find that I can see. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 11:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Nom comment: no objection to closing as merge. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 15:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Austria-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:58, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Comment There’s a tour operator offering hikes up it, a hiking route, and a hotel halfway up the mountain, so there’s no doubt it exists. Mccapra ( talk) 18:47, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to Serles. It is a part of that mountain, one of the lower peaks map.-- Pontificalibus 13:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per
WP:GEOLAND. No shortage of book sources for mere existence, and some have information that goes beyond that,
- Sight-seeing in Germany and the Tyrol in the Autumn of 1855, "In many cases the covering of wood is more extensive; and on some of the boldest and loftiest of mounstains, as on the Sonnenstein on the left bank, it reaches to their very summit in the most luxurious profusion."
- Chambers's Journal, "...you soon find it girdled by huge mountains...the gigantic Traunstein, six thousand feet high on the south side, and Sonnenstein opposite." and later "From the huge forest-clad pinnacle of Sonnenstein, the plateau descends softly...in an egg-shaped promonatory...into the lake."
- Catharine Merrill, Life and Letters, "Waldrest is on Mt. Sonnenstein, not on the top, but nearly half way up, and Sonnenstein is one of the highest mountains around Innsbruck. The giant Solstein, a grim, black, sullen monster, which frowns down on the very streets of the city, ..."
- Merge to Serles. This appears to be one of the peaks of that mountain, per Pontificalibus, and possibly a name previously used for the whole mountain, per the sources found by Spinningspark, the most recent of which is dated 1934. Phil Bridger ( talk) 10:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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