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The result was Keep. ( non-admin closure) czar ♔ 03:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Sommer Contemporary Art
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I don't believe that this gallery is notable, besides being considered among the best in Israel (but not the best). Article a bit promotional. Gbawden ( talk) 09:13, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Promotional indeed--it seems that Nobili Vitelleschi Camilla insists on this. Such lists are always a bad idea. Drmies ( talk) 15:12, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, In my opinion notability is established by the included sources. The article clearly needs work. I do agree both with Gbawden and Drmies that parts of it do have promotional content, but I don't think it is beyond fixing.-- Crystallizedcarbon ( talk) 15:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep with disclosure I created the most recent version after seeing it come up on the Help Desk, I think. The previous ones were appropriate G11/G12s I forgot I couldn't decline the speedy as creator and self reverted. I believe the gallery is notable and if someone is willing to work with me to help the creator understand our guidelines, I think we can keep the promotional tone out. Among the best in a country with a small arts scene. Covered in NYT and Time, as well as a book more than meets WP:ORG. There are Hebrew language sources as well if someone can read them. I think the rest can be fixed via editing. Not an issue for deletion. StarM 03:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep sources look sufficient. Just googled Sommers = gallery = "Tel Aviv+ and an article form Time Magazine came right up. Added it . there were more. Granted, article needs expansion, probably using sources in Hebrew. There should be an arts district Tel Aviv article, discussing this and other galleries, events. ShulMaven ( talk) 19:00, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep The New York Times called it "possibly Israel's leading contemporary art gallery, with a blue-chip roster of artists", and devoted several paragraphs to the gallery. There are several other solid sources. I agree with the presumption that good sources exist in Hebrew, but the English sources now provided are adequate. I cleaned up some scrambled wikilinks and will do some copy editing. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:40, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Although I do not read Hebrew, I looked into one of the Hebrew sources using Google Translate, a 2006 article in the leading business newspaper Globes. This is an in depth article of over 20 paragraphs, with great detail about the gallery and its owner. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:26, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep: Demonstrating notability for galleries and art spaces can be awkward, but there is sufficient here with the Frieze and Time references. AllyD ( talk) 19:48, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
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The result was Keep. ( non-admin closure) czar ♔ 03:11, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Sommer Contemporary Art
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I don't believe that this gallery is notable, besides being considered among the best in Israel (but not the best). Article a bit promotional. Gbawden ( talk) 09:13, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Promotional indeed--it seems that Nobili Vitelleschi Camilla insists on this. Such lists are always a bad idea. Drmies ( talk) 15:12, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, In my opinion notability is established by the included sources. The article clearly needs work. I do agree both with Gbawden and Drmies that parts of it do have promotional content, but I don't think it is beyond fixing.-- Crystallizedcarbon ( talk) 15:31, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. AllyD ( talk) 17:22, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:38, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:38, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep with disclosure I created the most recent version after seeing it come up on the Help Desk, I think. The previous ones were appropriate G11/G12s I forgot I couldn't decline the speedy as creator and self reverted. I believe the gallery is notable and if someone is willing to work with me to help the creator understand our guidelines, I think we can keep the promotional tone out. Among the best in a country with a small arts scene. Covered in NYT and Time, as well as a book more than meets WP:ORG. There are Hebrew language sources as well if someone can read them. I think the rest can be fixed via editing. Not an issue for deletion. StarM 03:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep sources look sufficient. Just googled Sommers = gallery = "Tel Aviv+ and an article form Time Magazine came right up. Added it . there were more. Granted, article needs expansion, probably using sources in Hebrew. There should be an arts district Tel Aviv article, discussing this and other galleries, events. ShulMaven ( talk) 19:00, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep The New York Times called it "possibly Israel's leading contemporary art gallery, with a blue-chip roster of artists", and devoted several paragraphs to the gallery. There are several other solid sources. I agree with the presumption that good sources exist in Hebrew, but the English sources now provided are adequate. I cleaned up some scrambled wikilinks and will do some copy editing. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:40, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Although I do not read Hebrew, I looked into one of the Hebrew sources using Google Translate, a 2006 article in the leading business newspaper Globes. This is an in depth article of over 20 paragraphs, with great detail about the gallery and its owner. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:26, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- Keep: Demonstrating notability for galleries and art spaces can be awkward, but there is sufficient here with the Frieze and Time references. AllyD ( talk) 19:48, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
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