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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 00:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Singapore EPL Fan Club League

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Non-notable league as per WP:FOOTY. LRD NO ( talk) 05:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the following associated article for deletion:

2013–14 Singapore EPL Fan Club League (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 06:07, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Weak keep. Since EPL Fan club league has participated in

  • 1. Newcastle United Supporters Club Singapore
  • 2. Singapore Chelsea Supporters Club
  • 3. United 4 United
  • 4. Arsenal Singapore Supporters Club
  • 5. Singapore Spurs Supporters' Club

are national level of the league structure and are assumed to meet WP:FOOTYN as sources say this and this. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 06:20, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Comment The Fan Club League is not affiliated to the Football Association of Singapore in any way and is not part of the national league structure. LRD NO ( talk) 06:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Comment. @ LRD NO: Please see the news about Singapore EPL Fan Club Leagues at The Straits Times that shows good coverage of the EPL Leagues. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 06:56, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment What I see is the wide coverage of Premier League clubs, not the fan clubs/league. Besides, coverage is not the determining factor in establishing WP:FOOTYN. The Fan Club League is akin to the Sunday league football you get in England, and is not associated with the governing football body (FAS) nor part of the football pyramid. Regarding "assumed to meet WP:FOOTYN", WP:FOOTYN clearly states assumed non-notability unless it meets broader WP:N criteria. LRD NO ( talk) 07:08, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Aside from the soft story at http://news.asiaone.com there's nothing to support notability. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 06:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete this fan club article for failing WP:ORG. It currently has only weak coverage in reliable sources... such as Straits Times (reprinted in the aforementioned Asia One). Sourced mentions might be included elsewhere, but until this Singapore club receives more coverage, it fails WP:ORG. Schmidt, Michael Q. 07:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Non-notable fan league. Not part of the Singaporean football pyramid in anyway, so fails WP:FOOTYN. Commets above regarding FOOTYN pass are rroneous and based on a misunderstanding of that agreed consensus. Fenix down ( talk) 12:25, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete As a Singaporean who follows local football, I have never seen this league covered in detail (that is, beyond fixtures and results) in reliable sources. -- Hildanknight ( talk) 13:19, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete - non-notable. Giant Snowman 18:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - non-notable amateur/social/kickabout competition. Strait Times link above clearly shows coverage of the Premier League itself, not this league for fans -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 11:50, 19 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - It's an amateur competition that has not received enough coverage in reliable sources. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 02:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC) reply
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 00:24, 26 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Singapore EPL Fan Club League

Singapore EPL Fan Club League (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Non-notable league as per WP:FOOTY. LRD NO ( talk) 05:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

I am also nominating the following associated article for deletion:

2013–14 Singapore EPL Fan Club League (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Singapore-related deletion discussions. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 06:07, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Weak keep. Since EPL Fan club league has participated in

  • 1. Newcastle United Supporters Club Singapore
  • 2. Singapore Chelsea Supporters Club
  • 3. United 4 United
  • 4. Arsenal Singapore Supporters Club
  • 5. Singapore Spurs Supporters' Club

are national level of the league structure and are assumed to meet WP:FOOTYN as sources say this and this. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 06:20, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Comment The Fan Club League is not affiliated to the Football Association of Singapore in any way and is not part of the national league structure. LRD NO ( talk) 06:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Comment. @ LRD NO: Please see the news about Singapore EPL Fan Club Leagues at The Straits Times that shows good coverage of the EPL Leagues. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 06:56, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment What I see is the wide coverage of Premier League clubs, not the fan clubs/league. Besides, coverage is not the determining factor in establishing WP:FOOTYN. The Fan Club League is akin to the Sunday league football you get in England, and is not associated with the governing football body (FAS) nor part of the football pyramid. Regarding "assumed to meet WP:FOOTYN", WP:FOOTYN clearly states assumed non-notability unless it meets broader WP:N criteria. LRD NO ( talk) 07:08, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Aside from the soft story at http://news.asiaone.com there's nothing to support notability. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 06:48, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete this fan club article for failing WP:ORG. It currently has only weak coverage in reliable sources... such as Straits Times (reprinted in the aforementioned Asia One). Sourced mentions might be included elsewhere, but until this Singapore club receives more coverage, it fails WP:ORG. Schmidt, Michael Q. 07:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Non-notable fan league. Not part of the Singaporean football pyramid in anyway, so fails WP:FOOTYN. Commets above regarding FOOTYN pass are rroneous and based on a misunderstanding of that agreed consensus. Fenix down ( talk) 12:25, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete As a Singaporean who follows local football, I have never seen this league covered in detail (that is, beyond fixtures and results) in reliable sources. -- Hildanknight ( talk) 13:19, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:56, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete - non-notable. Giant Snowman 18:59, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - non-notable amateur/social/kickabout competition. Strait Times link above clearly shows coverage of the Premier League itself, not this league for fans -- ChrisTheDude ( talk) 11:50, 19 June 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - It's an amateur competition that has not received enough coverage in reliable sources. Narutolovehinata5 t c csd new 02:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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