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The result was no consensus. I'm in a really awkward situation here that I feel like in many respects the deletion argument is probably more persuasive overall, assessing it as the closer. That being said, there is significantly more support for the keep argument. Trying to balance this is hard to do and find a clear outcome, and I've landed on No Consensus as a result of that. Daniel ( talk) 11:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Simon Amin
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Syria-related deletion discussions. Simione001 ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep - clearly notable, weak and lazy nomination. International player with ongoing career who has played in the top leagues of Sweden and Norway? Swedish Wikipedia has sources. Needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 21:06, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - @ GiantSnowman: There's actually not a whole lot on the Swedish wikipedia. Mostly just player profiles match reports and routine transfer news. Simione001 ( talk) 23:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - @
GiantSnowman: Did you actually read these? The first one is a brief article about his contract expiring. The second is pay walled. The third article isnt even about the player in question and the last one is a match report. These do not satisfy WP:GNG
Simione001 (
talk)
20:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- He is mentioned in the third one, you clearly haven't read it - just as you clearly haven't bothered to do any BEFORE. I have located numerous coverage about this person, you have done nothing. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - excuse me how do you know what i have and haven't done? I have read it and I've just read it again, the third article you provided, this article is not about the player in question. This is simply a list of players that were nominated for Allsvenskans Stora Pris. This doesnt satisy WP:GNG.
Simione001 (
talk)
21:35, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- He is still mentioned in the article, so you have not read it. Giant Snowman 22:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - Seems like we are going around in circles here and im not sure what you are trying to achieve. Anyway, not sure why you provided the source in the first place, it doesn't do anything towards satisfying WP:GNG. Do you still think he's notable based on the sources provided? Sounds like just another case of WP:ILIKEIT. Simione001 ( talk) 22:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - excuse me how do you know what i have and haven't done? I have read it and I've just read it again, the third article you provided, this article is not about the player in question. This is simply a list of players that were nominated for Allsvenskans Stora Pris. This doesnt satisy WP:GNG.
Simione001 (
talk)
21:35, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - @
GiantSnowman: Did you actually read these? The first one is a brief article about his contract expiring. The second is pay walled. The third article isnt even about the player in question and the last one is a match report. These do not satisfy WP:GNG
Simione001 (
talk)
20:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, passes GNG. Plenty of coverage if you search his Arabic name.--
Ortizesp (
talk)
07:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- If that's the case please provide links for the consideration of members. Simione001 ( talk) 11:08, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. From the sources mentioned above:
1 is a routine transactional update
.
2 I can't access.
3 is literally just his name in a list published by the Swedish Elite Football organization .
4 is a mention in a routine match recap plus a quote from teammate Strandberg . Even if #2 is SIGCOV, that is still not equivalent to GNG.
- Delete. From the sources mentioned above:
1 is a routine transactional update
- JoelleJay ( talk) 02:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep – There is coverage on sv.wiki in addition to Arabic sources, as mentioned above. Svartner ( talk) 04:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep – Per WP:GNG. Article needs improvements. But Afd is not a clean-up service. Sources are notable.
BabbaQ (
talk)
09:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Except that they aernt notable at all. Simione001 ( talk) 12:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:GNG and above. gidonb ( talk) 04:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. I'm in a really awkward situation here that I feel like in many respects the deletion argument is probably more persuasive overall, assessing it as the closer. That being said, there is significantly more support for the keep argument. Trying to balance this is hard to do and find a clear outcome, and I've landed on No Consensus as a result of that. Daniel ( talk) 11:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Simon Amin
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Syria-related deletion discussions. Simione001 ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. Simione001 ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Simione001 ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Simione001 ( talk) 23:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 20:58, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - clearly notable, weak and lazy nomination. International player with ongoing career who has played in the top leagues of Sweden and Norway? Swedish Wikipedia has sources. Needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 21:06, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - @ GiantSnowman: There's actually not a whole lot on the Swedish wikipedia. Mostly just player profiles match reports and routine transfer news. Simione001 ( talk) 23:36, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - @
GiantSnowman: Did you actually read these? The first one is a brief article about his contract expiring. The second is pay walled. The third article isnt even about the player in question and the last one is a match report. These do not satisfy WP:GNG
Simione001 (
talk)
20:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- He is mentioned in the third one, you clearly haven't read it - just as you clearly haven't bothered to do any BEFORE. I have located numerous coverage about this person, you have done nothing. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - excuse me how do you know what i have and haven't done? I have read it and I've just read it again, the third article you provided, this article is not about the player in question. This is simply a list of players that were nominated for Allsvenskans Stora Pris. This doesnt satisy WP:GNG.
Simione001 (
talk)
21:35, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- He is still mentioned in the article, so you have not read it. Giant Snowman 22:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - Seems like we are going around in circles here and im not sure what you are trying to achieve. Anyway, not sure why you provided the source in the first place, it doesn't do anything towards satisfying WP:GNG. Do you still think he's notable based on the sources provided? Sounds like just another case of WP:ILIKEIT. Simione001 ( talk) 22:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - excuse me how do you know what i have and haven't done? I have read it and I've just read it again, the third article you provided, this article is not about the player in question. This is simply a list of players that were nominated for Allsvenskans Stora Pris. This doesnt satisy WP:GNG.
Simione001 (
talk)
21:35, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - @
GiantSnowman: Did you actually read these? The first one is a brief article about his contract expiring. The second is pay walled. The third article isnt even about the player in question and the last one is a match report. These do not satisfy WP:GNG
Simione001 (
talk)
20:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep, passes GNG. Plenty of coverage if you search his Arabic name.--
Ortizesp (
talk)
07:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- If that's the case please provide links for the consideration of members. Simione001 ( talk) 11:08, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. From the sources mentioned above:
1 is a routine transactional update .
2 I can't access.
3 is literally just his name in a list published by the Swedish Elite Football organization .
4 is a mention in a routine match recap plus a quote from teammate Strandberg . Even if #2 is SIGCOV, that is still not equivalent to GNG.
- Delete. From the sources mentioned above:
1 is a routine transactional update
- JoelleJay ( talk) 02:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep – There is coverage on sv.wiki in addition to Arabic sources, as mentioned above. Svartner ( talk) 04:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep – Per WP:GNG. Article needs improvements. But Afd is not a clean-up service. Sources are notable.
BabbaQ (
talk)
09:01, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Except that they aernt notable at all. Simione001 ( talk) 12:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:GNG and above. gidonb ( talk) 04:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.