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The result was keep. Tawker ( talk) 19:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- Silvana Carsetti ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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On notability grounds Peter Rehse ( talk) 09:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse ( talk) 09:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Here I will show you lists that prove her notability: [1], [2], [3]. Rehse seems bent on deleting this article, and he had already commented that it would be on AfD after one of his editions. Antonio El Pampas Martin ( dime?) 12:43. April 1, 2014 (UTC)
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=sILVANA+Carsetti&oq=Silvana+&aqs=chrome.2.69i59l3j69i57j69i60l2.5176j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=sILVANA+Carsetti&oq=Silvana+&aqs=chrome.2.69i59l3j69i57j69i60l2.5176j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=maidana+silvana+carsetti&revid=1731189678
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=sILVANA+Carsetti&oq=Silvana+&aqs=chrome.2.69i59l3j69i57j69i60l2.5176j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=silvana+carsetti+boxeo+de+primera&start=10
- I said in the edit summary when I replaced a notability tag that I would probably submit it to AfD. I thought that was just fair warning in case there was more out there. As the article stands I don't think she is notable. If consensus is that she is - no problem. Peter Rehse ( talk) 11:59, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Delete When it comes to a google search, it's quality not quantity that count. Certainly there are references, but these mostly to the works she has done, and there is little coverage actually focussed on herself. TheLongTone ( talk) 16:41, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Delete I did my own google search and didn't find significant coverage of her in reliable sources. All reporters are not notable. Mdtemp ( talk) 18:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- comment Wait...so being a national reporter on Fox News in the United States...the Spanish version anyways...and on an nationally in Argentina and internationally televised weekly series does not make her notable?? Antonio Alocado Martin ( dime?) 04:01, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep - She is a notable reporter with an internationally televised weekly series. She is to the Hispanic sports fans what Howard Cosell was to the sports fans in the United States. If you want to delete her article, then do the same to Cosell's. You know, one of the problems facing Wikipedia today, is that instead of encouraging new and current editors to contribute to the project, such as in the beginning where one of the basic foundations of the project was that very body could write and edit, we are doing the opposite. Instead of digging in and helping to improve articles, we have created too many rules and if we do not not like an article, we do not even have the courtesy of discussing it with others in the articles "talk" page before nomination it for deletion. We are discouraging new and current editors. Tony the Marine ( talk) 00:16, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Where is the significant independent coverage of her? Your argument is both WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and wrong because Cosell was covered by many print and electronic media. No one has yet listed any significant coverage of Carsetti. Mdtemp ( talk) 15:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I'm waiting to see if the proponents of keeping this article come up with some good sources that are about her instead of video, etc. of her doing her job.
Papaursa (
talk) 17:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- How about this- [1]-? Antonio Sunglasses Martin ( loser talk) 10:29, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
- Frankly, it looks to me like you're claiming she's notable because of her relationship with a famous boxer and I think that falls under
WP:NOTINHERITED.
Papaursa (
talk) 20:04, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Absolutely not. I have been at Wikipedia for 12 years, am the creator of many different projects, and know what Wikipedia is and is not. I thought you would read the part where it says she is a television reporter and, (in the paper's opinion anyways) the only woman boxing expert in Argentina. That she had a relationship with Sergio Martinez is inconsequential to whether she is notable or not; she is notable for being on national and international television. It just happens that the relationship with Martinez is a well-publicized part of her life too. Plus, as you say, WP:NOTINHERITED, why does not that apply to Debbie Rowe as well? Antonio Martin Riggs Martin ( digame) 3:33, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Frankly, it looks to me like you're claiming she's notable because of her relationship with a famous boxer and I think that falls under
WP:NOTINHERITED.
Papaursa (
talk) 20:04, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Tawker ( talk) 19:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- Silvana Carsetti ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
On notability grounds Peter Rehse ( talk) 09:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse ( talk) 09:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Here I will show you lists that prove her notability: [1], [2], [3]. Rehse seems bent on deleting this article, and he had already commented that it would be on AfD after one of his editions. Antonio El Pampas Martin ( dime?) 12:43. April 1, 2014 (UTC)
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=sILVANA+Carsetti&oq=Silvana+&aqs=chrome.2.69i59l3j69i57j69i60l2.5176j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=sILVANA+Carsetti&oq=Silvana+&aqs=chrome.2.69i59l3j69i57j69i60l2.5176j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=maidana+silvana+carsetti&revid=1731189678
- ^ https://www.google.com/search?q=sILVANA+Carsetti&oq=Silvana+&aqs=chrome.2.69i59l3j69i57j69i60l2.5176j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=silvana+carsetti+boxeo+de+primera&start=10
- I said in the edit summary when I replaced a notability tag that I would probably submit it to AfD. I thought that was just fair warning in case there was more out there. As the article stands I don't think she is notable. If consensus is that she is - no problem. Peter Rehse ( talk) 11:59, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Delete When it comes to a google search, it's quality not quantity that count. Certainly there are references, but these mostly to the works she has done, and there is little coverage actually focussed on herself. TheLongTone ( talk) 16:41, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- Delete I did my own google search and didn't find significant coverage of her in reliable sources. All reporters are not notable. Mdtemp ( talk) 18:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- comment Wait...so being a national reporter on Fox News in the United States...the Spanish version anyways...and on an nationally in Argentina and internationally televised weekly series does not make her notable?? Antonio Alocado Martin ( dime?) 04:01, April 2, 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - She is a notable reporter with an internationally televised weekly series. She is to the Hispanic sports fans what Howard Cosell was to the sports fans in the United States. If you want to delete her article, then do the same to Cosell's. You know, one of the problems facing Wikipedia today, is that instead of encouraging new and current editors to contribute to the project, such as in the beginning where one of the basic foundations of the project was that very body could write and edit, we are doing the opposite. Instead of digging in and helping to improve articles, we have created too many rules and if we do not not like an article, we do not even have the courtesy of discussing it with others in the articles "talk" page before nomination it for deletion. We are discouraging new and current editors. Tony the Marine ( talk) 00:16, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Where is the significant independent coverage of her? Your argument is both WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and wrong because Cosell was covered by many print and electronic media. No one has yet listed any significant coverage of Carsetti. Mdtemp ( talk) 15:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I'm waiting to see if the proponents of keeping this article come up with some good sources that are about her instead of video, etc. of her doing her job.
Papaursa (
talk) 17:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- How about this- [1]-? Antonio Sunglasses Martin ( loser talk) 10:29, April 7, 2014 (UTC)
- Frankly, it looks to me like you're claiming she's notable because of her relationship with a famous boxer and I think that falls under
WP:NOTINHERITED.
Papaursa (
talk) 20:04, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Absolutely not. I have been at Wikipedia for 12 years, am the creator of many different projects, and know what Wikipedia is and is not. I thought you would read the part where it says she is a television reporter and, (in the paper's opinion anyways) the only woman boxing expert in Argentina. That she had a relationship with Sergio Martinez is inconsequential to whether she is notable or not; she is notable for being on national and international television. It just happens that the relationship with Martinez is a well-publicized part of her life too. Plus, as you say, WP:NOTINHERITED, why does not that apply to Debbie Rowe as well? Antonio Martin Riggs Martin ( digame) 3:33, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Frankly, it looks to me like you're claiming she's notable because of her relationship with a famous boxer and I think that falls under
WP:NOTINHERITED.
Papaursa (
talk) 20:04, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
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