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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis ( talk) 00:29, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
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Accepted and moved from draft space and then promptly tagged with {{ db-A7}}. Is it notable? — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 12:57, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Nope hence why I declined the submission last year. The only coverage thus far is that the station was opened. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 13:02, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep:- Licensed radio and TV stations are generally kept as notable if they broadcast over the air and originate at least a portion of their programming schedule in their own studios. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 17:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep: It is licensed TV channel so its notable. Moreover, Sri Lanka is very very small country having population equal to any metro city of Big nation, so whatever happening in this nation may not be covered by The New York Times and BBC. This TV channel must be famous at national level as Sri Lanka is Buddhist country and this channel is also about Budhhism. National language of Sri Lanka is Sinhalese language and mention of this channel must be in Sinhalese language news papers and journals, I don't think that Sri Lanka has any notable English newspaper and even if Sri Lanka has any notable English news paper still its less likely that English news paper will give news about any non-English spiritual channel. So we can't just deny this article. It is licensed TV channel from small country so it is notable at that level. -- Human3015 knock knock • 21:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment -
Human3015's comments are very simplistic and paternalistic, particularly for Sri Lankan editors. - This TV channel must be famous at national level as Sri Lanka is Buddhist country and this channel is also about Buddhism. Sri Lanka has a number of Buddhist, Sinhalese, Tamil and English television channels, just because it is a Buddhist channel does not make it inherently 'famous'. Sri Lanka also has a number of national English newspapers which can be accessed for news about the country. The issue is whether the channel is notable or not according to Wikipedia guidelines.
Dan arndt (
talk) 01:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Dan arndt, I don't have any specific POV regarding any specific nation, I was just giving some rationale to prove my point. You seems to be familiar with Sri Lankan issues, then you must be aware about Sri Lankan Civil War, Sinhalese vs Tamil war. Those people are passionate for their local language, entire politics revolves around language. Sinhalese have far more importance than English in Sri Lanka. For example Sri Lanka's current President knows only "Sinhalese" language, nothing else. So I want to make a point that Sinhalese Media is more active and most read media in Lanka. So if we want to check notability of this TV channel then we can't just rely on English language sources, we should also look for sources in Sinhalese and Tamil. I don't know both languages so I can't search for it and can't establish its notability. I just want to say that, if we don't find any source in English language still we should not deny its notability unless we confirm it by other language sources. According to Wikipedia policy also we can use non-English sources, those Sinhalese news papers also have status of national dailies. -- Human3015 knock knock • 01:58, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- I trust you will be adding those sources that "may" exist in those languages? The first few difficulties I foresee is verfiability. I'd also like to point out that wikiproject guidelines on notability do not overrule or trump wikipedias. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:05, 9 July 2015 (UTC) Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:03, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment The channel name in Sinhalese appears to be ශ්රද්ධා රූපවාහිනිය (?). Given that I speak zero Sinhalese and have no instincts about which links in my Google search may be news sources, I am not easily able to come up with more sources. It appears that this is a newspaper article about the channel from 2013, but Google Translate gives a pretty poor idea of what it says. I'm not sure what volume of online news would be expected for a television channel in Sri Lanka. Calliopejen1 ( talk) 18:08, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Calliopejen1, thanks for your efforts, your given link shows that its news about Shraddha TV on National daily of Sri Lanka in Sinhala language. I copy pasted headline ශ්රද්ධා රූපවාහිනිය ඩයලොග් ටීවී ඔස්සේ on google translator, it translates as Shraddha Dialog TV via TV, there must be some words missing in translation we have to translate it word by word. But one thing is sure that entire news is about Shraddha TV and headline contains word Shraddha TV. It means its notable TV channel in Sri Lanka. -- Human3015 knock knock • 18:26, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - the article already cites a number of verifiable newspaper sources and clearly meets WP:GNG. Dan arndt ( talk) 02:08, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: This is a well-known Buddhist TV channel in Sri Lanka. SWR2.9 ( talk) 08:13, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis ( talk) 00:29, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
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Accepted and moved from draft space and then promptly tagged with {{ db-A7}}. Is it notable? — RHaworth ( talk · contribs) 12:57, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Nope hence why I declined the submission last year. The only coverage thus far is that the station was opened. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 13:02, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep:- Licensed radio and TV stations are generally kept as notable if they broadcast over the air and originate at least a portion of their programming schedule in their own studios. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 17:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep: It is licensed TV channel so its notable. Moreover, Sri Lanka is very very small country having population equal to any metro city of Big nation, so whatever happening in this nation may not be covered by The New York Times and BBC. This TV channel must be famous at national level as Sri Lanka is Buddhist country and this channel is also about Budhhism. National language of Sri Lanka is Sinhalese language and mention of this channel must be in Sinhalese language news papers and journals, I don't think that Sri Lanka has any notable English newspaper and even if Sri Lanka has any notable English news paper still its less likely that English news paper will give news about any non-English spiritual channel. So we can't just deny this article. It is licensed TV channel from small country so it is notable at that level. -- Human3015 knock knock • 21:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment -
Human3015's comments are very simplistic and paternalistic, particularly for Sri Lankan editors. - This TV channel must be famous at national level as Sri Lanka is Buddhist country and this channel is also about Buddhism. Sri Lanka has a number of Buddhist, Sinhalese, Tamil and English television channels, just because it is a Buddhist channel does not make it inherently 'famous'. Sri Lanka also has a number of national English newspapers which can be accessed for news about the country. The issue is whether the channel is notable or not according to Wikipedia guidelines.
Dan arndt (
talk) 01:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Dan arndt, I don't have any specific POV regarding any specific nation, I was just giving some rationale to prove my point. You seems to be familiar with Sri Lankan issues, then you must be aware about Sri Lankan Civil War, Sinhalese vs Tamil war. Those people are passionate for their local language, entire politics revolves around language. Sinhalese have far more importance than English in Sri Lanka. For example Sri Lanka's current President knows only "Sinhalese" language, nothing else. So I want to make a point that Sinhalese Media is more active and most read media in Lanka. So if we want to check notability of this TV channel then we can't just rely on English language sources, we should also look for sources in Sinhalese and Tamil. I don't know both languages so I can't search for it and can't establish its notability. I just want to say that, if we don't find any source in English language still we should not deny its notability unless we confirm it by other language sources. According to Wikipedia policy also we can use non-English sources, those Sinhalese news papers also have status of national dailies. -- Human3015 knock knock • 01:58, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- I trust you will be adding those sources that "may" exist in those languages? The first few difficulties I foresee is verfiability. I'd also like to point out that wikiproject guidelines on notability do not overrule or trump wikipedias. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:05, 9 July 2015 (UTC) Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:03, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment The channel name in Sinhalese appears to be ශ්රද්ධා රූපවාහිනිය (?). Given that I speak zero Sinhalese and have no instincts about which links in my Google search may be news sources, I am not easily able to come up with more sources. It appears that this is a newspaper article about the channel from 2013, but Google Translate gives a pretty poor idea of what it says. I'm not sure what volume of online news would be expected for a television channel in Sri Lanka. Calliopejen1 ( talk) 18:08, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Calliopejen1, thanks for your efforts, your given link shows that its news about Shraddha TV on National daily of Sri Lanka in Sinhala language. I copy pasted headline ශ්රද්ධා රූපවාහිනිය ඩයලොග් ටීවී ඔස්සේ on google translator, it translates as Shraddha Dialog TV via TV, there must be some words missing in translation we have to translate it word by word. But one thing is sure that entire news is about Shraddha TV and headline contains word Shraddha TV. It means its notable TV channel in Sri Lanka. -- Human3015 knock knock • 18:26, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - the article already cites a number of verifiable newspaper sources and clearly meets WP:GNG. Dan arndt ( talk) 02:08, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: This is a well-known Buddhist TV channel in Sri Lanka. SWR2.9 ( talk) 08:13, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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