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The result was redirect to Riyaz Khan#Early and personal life. Discounted the two IP keeps that geolocate to the same area as sockpuppet IPs of the checkuser-blocked article creator. Most of the other participants converged on redirect as the appropriate solution for now. RL0919 ( talk) 14:02, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Shariq Hassan
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Fails WP:NACTOR. Is the main antagonist of Pencil and has no other notability. He was the winner of the reality show BB Jodigal but that doesn't add much. WP:TOOEARLY, please redirect to Pencil (film). He also played the lead in the 5 episode YouTube series Kaalam Neram Kadhal. Is that notable? I smell COI because the article said his unreleased film "received an average reception from critics". [1].
Has a similar notability to Draft:Tharshan Thiyagarajah. This source talks about his lack of roles since Bigg Boss [2]. DareshMohan ( talk) 19:00, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Tamil Nadu. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:16, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
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- I find DareshMohan's explanation convincing and agree with him that redirect to
Pencil (film)#Cast is a good solution for now.-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank) 14:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC) add. But really not opposed to Keep as his notoriety is also indeed clearly associated with Bigg Boss and a redirect would make that pehaps unclear. -
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
10:49, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- See below for other possible target of a redirect. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep. Coverage by the Times of India, on multiple occasions, is more than enough to establish notability per WP:NACTOR. Owen× ☎ 17:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Comment The only notable factor i found a role in Pencil and BigBoss. 00:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Has major roles in atleast more then 2 films and has appeared in a major and highly popular reality show in India and is exposed to a high ratio of audiences in the Indian entertainment industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:9425:5800:C58C:FF1D:D300:BA78 ( talk) 01:28, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- @ 2001:8003:9425:5800:C58C:FF1D:D300:BA78: Please list the films. He only starred in 2, one was a minor role. DareshMohan ( talk) 23:29, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 00:12, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Provides enough information to show the individual is notable in the industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.185.219.179 ( talk) 06:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect, ToF counts as one source so no matter how in-depth and substantial any of those pieces are they still do not amount to GNG. This is even ignoring the tabloid quality of the ToF articles.
-
JoelleJay (
talk)
20:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but what is "ToF"?-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
00:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)? (did you mean The Times of India? if so, only
one2 articles from this periodical are cited on the page, one addressing directly and in-depth the career of Shariq Hassan, the second clearly there only for verification of his presence in the cast of a future film.)- This was addressing the claim above that
Coverage by the Times of India, on multiple occasions, is more than enough to establish notability per WP:NACTOR.
JoelleJay ( talk) 06:24, 5 December 2023 (UTC)- OK, thanks, it's generally abbreviated as TOI rather than ToF, though. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:02, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- This was addressing the claim above that
- I'm sorry but what is "ToF"?-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
00:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)? (did you mean The Times of India? if so, only
- @
Mushy Yank: @
DJ InstaMalik: @
JoelleJay: Would you support a redirect to his father
Riyaz Khan#Early and personal life with a sentence about him? Clearly
Wikipedia:TOOSOON.
DareshMohan (
talk)
03:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, that works for me! (but not strongly opposed to keep) - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:30, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This is his summary:
Shariq Hassan, an actor who appeared in the film Pencil (2016) and the son of Riyaz Khan
. See Bigg Boss (Tamil season 2)#Housemates. @ OwenX: He doesn't meet WP:NACTOR now, also The Times of Indiais considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable. It has a bias in favor of the Indian government and is known to accept payments from persons and entities in exchange for positive coverage.
per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Sources. DareshMohan ( talk) 23:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Riyaz Khan#Early and personal life. Discounted the two IP keeps that geolocate to the same area as sockpuppet IPs of the checkuser-blocked article creator. Most of the other participants converged on redirect as the appropriate solution for now. RL0919 ( talk) 14:02, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Shariq Hassan
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Fails WP:NACTOR. Is the main antagonist of Pencil and has no other notability. He was the winner of the reality show BB Jodigal but that doesn't add much. WP:TOOEARLY, please redirect to Pencil (film). He also played the lead in the 5 episode YouTube series Kaalam Neram Kadhal. Is that notable? I smell COI because the article said his unreleased film "received an average reception from critics". [1].
Has a similar notability to Draft:Tharshan Thiyagarajah. This source talks about his lack of roles since Bigg Boss [2]. DareshMohan ( talk) 19:00, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Tamil Nadu. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:16, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Dance, Music, Television, and Internet. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:13, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- I find DareshMohan's explanation convincing and agree with him that redirect to
Pencil (film)#Cast is a good solution for now.-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank) 14:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC) add. But really not opposed to Keep as his notoriety is also indeed clearly associated with Bigg Boss and a redirect would make that pehaps unclear. -
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
10:49, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- See below for other possible target of a redirect. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 ( talk) 21:49, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Coverage by the Times of India, on multiple occasions, is more than enough to establish notability per WP:NACTOR. Owen× ☎ 17:34, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The only notable factor i found a role in Pencil and BigBoss. 00:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Has major roles in atleast more then 2 films and has appeared in a major and highly popular reality show in India and is exposed to a high ratio of audiences in the Indian entertainment industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:9425:5800:C58C:FF1D:D300:BA78 ( talk) 01:28, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
- @ 2001:8003:9425:5800:C58C:FF1D:D300:BA78: Please list the films. He only starred in 2, one was a minor role. DareshMohan ( talk) 23:29, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 00:12, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Provides enough information to show the individual is notable in the industry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.185.219.179 ( talk) 06:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect, ToF counts as one source so no matter how in-depth and substantial any of those pieces are they still do not amount to GNG. This is even ignoring the tabloid quality of the ToF articles.
-
JoelleJay (
talk)
20:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but what is "ToF"?-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
00:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)? (did you mean The Times of India? if so, only
one2 articles from this periodical are cited on the page, one addressing directly and in-depth the career of Shariq Hassan, the second clearly there only for verification of his presence in the cast of a future film.)- This was addressing the claim above that
Coverage by the Times of India, on multiple occasions, is more than enough to establish notability per WP:NACTOR.
JoelleJay ( talk) 06:24, 5 December 2023 (UTC)- OK, thanks, it's generally abbreviated as TOI rather than ToF, though. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:02, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- This was addressing the claim above that
- I'm sorry but what is "ToF"?-
My, oh my!
(Mushy Yank)
00:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)? (did you mean The Times of India? if so, only
- @
Mushy Yank: @
DJ InstaMalik: @
JoelleJay: Would you support a redirect to his father
Riyaz Khan#Early and personal life with a sentence about him? Clearly
Wikipedia:TOOSOON.
DareshMohan (
talk)
03:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, that works for me! (but not strongly opposed to keep) - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:30, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This is his summary:
Shariq Hassan, an actor who appeared in the film Pencil (2016) and the son of Riyaz Khan
. See Bigg Boss (Tamil season 2)#Housemates. @ OwenX: He doesn't meet WP:NACTOR now, also The Times of Indiais considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable. It has a bias in favor of the Indian government and is known to accept payments from persons and entities in exchange for positive coverage.
per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Sources. DareshMohan ( talk) 23:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.