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The result was delete. Kurykh ( talk) 02:32, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
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Very poorly cited article. Lot of hits, but couldn't find enough in-depth articles from independent and reliable sources about this particular group which would indicate they pass WP:GNG, and nothing in the article indicates significance, let alone that they pass WP:NMUSIC. Onel5969 TT me 11:37, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Sourced only to the group's own promotional webpage, and all the available sourcing appears to be equally promotional. Musical group that apparently has never charted and really has no fixed membership. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. ( talk) 15:19, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep Certainly poorly sourced, but WP:NRVE does not require sources be cited in the article to judge notability. A search of the entertainment press in Japan finds decent coverage in reliable sources: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], etc. The previous commentator was mistaken, and they have charted [8], though not very high. But WP:BAND does not specify how high a band needs to chart to pass criterion 2. Finally, they were the subject of an hour-long broadcast documentary on the Fuji Television network in their long-running documentary series Nonfix: [9]. Also I might add that whether they have fixed membership is irrelevant to this discussion. This is common in idol groups. This is not an overwhelming keep, I believe it passes WP:GNG. Michitaro ( talk) 18:53, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as part of a walled garden that Special:Contributions/Gstree is creating around the non-existing topic of Uncensored Japanese pornography. See also: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 February 20#Category:Uncensored_Japanese_pornography.
- Many of the author's recently created articles are currently at AfD, and this article was apparently created to prop up the articles being discussed at AfD. At best, this is a very early draft & clearly not ready for main space. If the topic is indeed notable, then an uninvolved editor would create it some time down the road. There's no rush to get to such a state, however. K.e.coffman ( talk) 00:00, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: There's enough notable singers in this band so in my opinion the article is worth at least a couple of weeks of improvement before we decide anything. -- Gstree ( talk) 23:15, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - after the walled garden has begun to be pierced, there are only 2 members of marginal notability left. Onel5969 TT me 11:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Per K.e.coffman. Insufficient indicia of notability. Montanabw (talk) 08:46, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- delete assertions and non policy arguments do not overcome a basicly massive lack of notability. Spartaz Humbug! 19:50, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as per above, Can't find any indepth coverage, Fails NMUSIC & GNG. – Davey2010 Talk 03:03, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Kurykh ( talk) 02:32, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
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Very poorly cited article. Lot of hits, but couldn't find enough in-depth articles from independent and reliable sources about this particular group which would indicate they pass WP:GNG, and nothing in the article indicates significance, let alone that they pass WP:NMUSIC. Onel5969 TT me 11:37, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Sourced only to the group's own promotional webpage, and all the available sourcing appears to be equally promotional. Musical group that apparently has never charted and really has no fixed membership. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. ( talk) 15:19, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:19, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:19, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:19, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Certainly poorly sourced, but WP:NRVE does not require sources be cited in the article to judge notability. A search of the entertainment press in Japan finds decent coverage in reliable sources: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], etc. The previous commentator was mistaken, and they have charted [8], though not very high. But WP:BAND does not specify how high a band needs to chart to pass criterion 2. Finally, they were the subject of an hour-long broadcast documentary on the Fuji Television network in their long-running documentary series Nonfix: [9]. Also I might add that whether they have fixed membership is irrelevant to this discussion. This is common in idol groups. This is not an overwhelming keep, I believe it passes WP:GNG. Michitaro ( talk) 18:53, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as part of a walled garden that Special:Contributions/Gstree is creating around the non-existing topic of Uncensored Japanese pornography. See also: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 February 20#Category:Uncensored_Japanese_pornography.
- Many of the author's recently created articles are currently at AfD, and this article was apparently created to prop up the articles being discussed at AfD. At best, this is a very early draft & clearly not ready for main space. If the topic is indeed notable, then an uninvolved editor would create it some time down the road. There's no rush to get to such a state, however. K.e.coffman ( talk) 00:00, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Keep: There's enough notable singers in this band so in my opinion the article is worth at least a couple of weeks of improvement before we decide anything. -- Gstree ( talk) 23:15, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - after the walled garden has begun to be pierced, there are only 2 members of marginal notability left. Onel5969 TT me 11:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Per K.e.coffman. Insufficient indicia of notability. Montanabw (talk) 08:46, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- delete assertions and non policy arguments do not overcome a basicly massive lack of notability. Spartaz Humbug! 19:50, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as per above, Can't find any indepth coverage, Fails NMUSIC & GNG. – Davey2010 Talk 03:03, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
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