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The result was withdrawn Legacypac ( talk) 06:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Seventh Day Adventist Church (Petoskey, Michigan)
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Article is about a non-current non-notable usage of a non-notable building. Jeffro77 ( talk) 22:58, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Keep The church building is on the National Register of Historic Places and is therefore notable. It's not online (yet), but there should be a nomination with an explanation of the site's significance and a bibliography, which provides evidence of notability. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 23:50, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- If it is notable as a heritage-listed site, and the only source gives two different names for the site, then the title of the article should be changed to the street address. The cited source doesn't say anything about the site, and searching that website for religious sites in Michigan doesn't return any results, nor does a search for any sites in Petoskey. Has the nomination been approved? If it has only been nominated, that also would not qualify as notability, per
WP:CRYSTAL. It's also not certain that inclusion on the National Register Historic Places automatically warrants a Wikipedia article. Is it likely that the article will be expanded? Are there are any other sources that discuss the building?--
Jeffro77 (
talk) 01:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- The nomination has been approved; the database linked in the article is undergoing maintenance, but if you look at the spreadsheet linked here it's included. (The second name appears to be an alternate name, so it should keep its current name.) And inclusion on the NRHP is, and has historically been, considered a higher threshold of notability than Wikipedia's standards, so NRHP-listed sites are considered notable. I'm not a fan of these bare-bones articles either, but some of us at WikiProject National Register of Historic Places are trying to expand them; Michigan's one of the three states that doesn't have online nomination forms yet, but I put in a request for a copy, and if and when I get it I can expand this one too. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 03:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- If it is notable as a heritage-listed site, and the only source gives two different names for the site, then the title of the article should be changed to the street address. The cited source doesn't say anything about the site, and searching that website for religious sites in Michigan doesn't return any results, nor does a search for any sites in Petoskey. Has the nomination been approved? If it has only been nominated, that also would not qualify as notability, per
WP:CRYSTAL. It's also not certain that inclusion on the National Register Historic Places automatically warrants a Wikipedia article. Is it likely that the article will be expanded? Are there are any other sources that discuss the building?--
Jeffro77 (
talk) 01:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Withdrawn after consideration of further comments by User:TheCatalyst31.-- Jeffro77 ( talk) 04:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was withdrawn Legacypac ( talk) 06:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Seventh Day Adventist Church (Petoskey, Michigan)
- Seventh Day Adventist Church (Petoskey, Michigan) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Article is about a non-current non-notable usage of a non-notable building. Jeffro77 ( talk) 22:58, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Keep The church building is on the National Register of Historic Places and is therefore notable. It's not online (yet), but there should be a nomination with an explanation of the site's significance and a bibliography, which provides evidence of notability. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 23:50, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- If it is notable as a heritage-listed site, and the only source gives two different names for the site, then the title of the article should be changed to the street address. The cited source doesn't say anything about the site, and searching that website for religious sites in Michigan doesn't return any results, nor does a search for any sites in Petoskey. Has the nomination been approved? If it has only been nominated, that also would not qualify as notability, per
WP:CRYSTAL. It's also not certain that inclusion on the National Register Historic Places automatically warrants a Wikipedia article. Is it likely that the article will be expanded? Are there are any other sources that discuss the building?--
Jeffro77 (
talk) 01:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- The nomination has been approved; the database linked in the article is undergoing maintenance, but if you look at the spreadsheet linked here it's included. (The second name appears to be an alternate name, so it should keep its current name.) And inclusion on the NRHP is, and has historically been, considered a higher threshold of notability than Wikipedia's standards, so NRHP-listed sites are considered notable. I'm not a fan of these bare-bones articles either, but some of us at WikiProject National Register of Historic Places are trying to expand them; Michigan's one of the three states that doesn't have online nomination forms yet, but I put in a request for a copy, and if and when I get it I can expand this one too. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 03:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- If it is notable as a heritage-listed site, and the only source gives two different names for the site, then the title of the article should be changed to the street address. The cited source doesn't say anything about the site, and searching that website for religious sites in Michigan doesn't return any results, nor does a search for any sites in Petoskey. Has the nomination been approved? If it has only been nominated, that also would not qualify as notability, per
WP:CRYSTAL. It's also not certain that inclusion on the National Register Historic Places automatically warrants a Wikipedia article. Is it likely that the article will be expanded? Are there are any other sources that discuss the building?--
Jeffro77 (
talk) 01:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Withdrawn after consideration of further comments by User:TheCatalyst31.-- Jeffro77 ( talk) 04:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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