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The result was delete. Yunshui 雲 水 07:06, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Sergio Timoner
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He hasn't managed in a league that is part of WP:FPL with him managing in the second tier of Hong Kong football. HawkAussie ( talk) 04:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 08:35, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete As a second tier football manager - fails WP:NFOOTBALL. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 09:43, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Article about semi-pro football manager which fails the GNG. I tried to locate any information in his native Argentina about a previous management or playing career there and came up with nothing but routine mentions of his managerial career in Hong Kong. Jogurney ( talk) 15:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Comment There is actually more than meets the eye here, which brings an interesting question: Timoner managed Happy Valley in the second tier of Hong Kong football, the Hong Kong First Division League, between August and October 2013 (per Soccerway), a league that was professional until 2014 (as noted at FPL). However, Happy Valley's results were expunged [1] in the following February (2014) and they were excluded; though disciplinary stuff remains 'on record' [2] - long after Timoner left. So, he did manage in an FPL league... it's just a question of how we see the expunging of results. Thoughts? GiantSnowman, CASSIOPEIA & Jogurney. R96Skinner ( talk) 23:32, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete we need to stop turning biographical articles into directories of some sports. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:37, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Yunshui 雲 水 07:06, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Sergio Timoner
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He hasn't managed in a league that is part of WP:FPL with him managing in the second tier of Hong Kong football. HawkAussie ( talk) 04:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie ( talk) 04:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie ( talk) 04:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie ( talk) 04:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 08:34, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 08:35, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete As a second tier football manager - fails WP:NFOOTBALL. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 09:43, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Article about semi-pro football manager which fails the GNG. I tried to locate any information in his native Argentina about a previous management or playing career there and came up with nothing but routine mentions of his managerial career in Hong Kong. Jogurney ( talk) 15:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Comment There is actually more than meets the eye here, which brings an interesting question: Timoner managed Happy Valley in the second tier of Hong Kong football, the Hong Kong First Division League, between August and October 2013 (per Soccerway), a league that was professional until 2014 (as noted at FPL). However, Happy Valley's results were expunged [1] in the following February (2014) and they were excluded; though disciplinary stuff remains 'on record' [2] - long after Timoner left. So, he did manage in an FPL league... it's just a question of how we see the expunging of results. Thoughts? GiantSnowman, CASSIOPEIA & Jogurney. R96Skinner ( talk) 23:32, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete we need to stop turning biographical articles into directories of some sports. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:37, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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