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The result was keep. SNOW Keep: no sense in leaving something opened for an article that has been significantly improved, clear demonstrations of notability and the nominator clearly meant to be disruptive Sadads ( talk) 03:47, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Seductio
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It isn't notable. Minecrafter0271 ( talk) 03:48, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete. This film, released in 1987, has no critic's reviews or user reviews listed in the Internet Movie Database, and it hasn't even received the 5 ratings from users which would be needed to calculate an average rating. I don't know how it could qualify as notable. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:06, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep and expand using the several French-language sources referenced at fr:Seductio. Nominator appears to have been subsequently banned for trolling. ― cobaltcigs 05:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Article does need improvement, but we judge notability based on the existence of suitable sources, not necessarily the current quality of the article — and the existing fr: article does have suitable, notability-bolstering sources in it that we can simply copy over. A film's notability does not depend on whether its critical or media attention has been indexed by IMDb or not — sure, that can be a valid place to check, but it's not the only place we need to check: the absence of such links in that source is not in and of itself a notability-breaker if other sources can be found elsewhere. And neither user reviews nor user ratings are relevant at all, either, given that we don't reference Wikipedia content to user-generated sourcing. Better sources are available here, it's just necessary to look at more than just IMDb to find them. I've been improving the referencing significantly; the trick, as I just learned, is that at the time the sources were spelling the filmmaker's name as "Bachar Chbib" instead of "Bashar Shbib" — once I found that out and made the necessary search term adjustment, the film's sourceability literally exploded. Bearcat ( talk) 22:17, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep article has good sourcing, passes WP:GNG. Curiocurio ( talk) 03:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as has been improved with the addition of reliably sourced content from The Globe and Mail, Montreal Gazette and other Canadian reliable sources so passes WP:GNG, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 22:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep thanks to Bearcat's excellent improvements. -- Toughpigs ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
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The result was keep. SNOW Keep: no sense in leaving something opened for an article that has been significantly improved, clear demonstrations of notability and the nominator clearly meant to be disruptive Sadads ( talk) 03:47, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Seductio
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It isn't notable. Minecrafter0271 ( talk) 03:48, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. This film, released in 1987, has no critic's reviews or user reviews listed in the Internet Movie Database, and it hasn't even received the 5 ratings from users which would be needed to calculate an average rating. I don't know how it could qualify as notable. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:06, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep and expand using the several French-language sources referenced at fr:Seductio. Nominator appears to have been subsequently banned for trolling. ― cobaltcigs 05:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Article does need improvement, but we judge notability based on the existence of suitable sources, not necessarily the current quality of the article — and the existing fr: article does have suitable, notability-bolstering sources in it that we can simply copy over. A film's notability does not depend on whether its critical or media attention has been indexed by IMDb or not — sure, that can be a valid place to check, but it's not the only place we need to check: the absence of such links in that source is not in and of itself a notability-breaker if other sources can be found elsewhere. And neither user reviews nor user ratings are relevant at all, either, given that we don't reference Wikipedia content to user-generated sourcing. Better sources are available here, it's just necessary to look at more than just IMDb to find them. I've been improving the referencing significantly; the trick, as I just learned, is that at the time the sources were spelling the filmmaker's name as "Bachar Chbib" instead of "Bashar Shbib" — once I found that out and made the necessary search term adjustment, the film's sourceability literally exploded. Bearcat ( talk) 22:17, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep article has good sourcing, passes WP:GNG. Curiocurio ( talk) 03:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as has been improved with the addition of reliably sourced content from The Globe and Mail, Montreal Gazette and other Canadian reliable sources so passes WP:GNG, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 22:25, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep thanks to Bearcat's excellent improvements. -- Toughpigs ( talk) 23:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
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