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The result was redirect to Sarah Townsend. The discussion proved that the two individuals were one and the same. Based on that, and the dialogue amongst the editors, consensus is to redirect. ( non-admin closure) Onel5969 TT me 21:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC) reply

Sarah McGuinness

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I can't find any significant coverage of the artist or the track "Mama Can You See Me Now" from the soundtrack. Fails WP:GNG Flat Out ( talk) 04:33, 30 September 2015 (UTC) reply

To me it appears it should be a redirect to Sarah Townsend - they are the same person according to this article. Bonnie ( talk) 04:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Agree with Bonnie to redirect or merge to Sarah Townsend, which is also listed as Sarah McGuinesses' birth name in this Wiki article. ABF99 ( talk) 05:06, 30 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Hi, I created the page. Apologies as WIKI is still very new to me. If we connect the mcguinness page to the townsend page will it then meet the requirements to avoid deletion as they are both the same page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SAHartline ( talkcontribs) 16:36, 30 September 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Redirect as far as I can tell all relevant information is already in the Townsend article, so a redirect seems most appropriate to me. The references in the McGuiness article may be useful though. AtHomeIn神戸 ( talk) 01:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC) reply
  • DO NOT REDIRECT -- UNCLEAR if Sarah McGuinness and Sarah Townsend are the same person -- I am not prepared to take the word of @SAHartline at this moment. Lack of viable redirect means DELETION is only option. SAHartline can update the other article if he/she chooses. Quis separabit? 15:15, 5 October 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC) reply

Comment -That Sarah McGuiness and Sarah Townsend are the same person has been confirmed by either McGuiness or a spokesperson in several different reliable sources. From The UK Express "A spokesman for Sarah clarified: “Yes, it is the same person and like many other artists (including Agatha Christie and Stephen King), Sarah chooses to write and record music under a different name and this is purely to separate her musical ­activities from her other work.” From The Scotsman: "Not only are McGuinness and Townsend the same person, she is also Izzard's ex-girlfriend, she confirms. They met in 1989 when she was running a Fringe venue at the Edinburgh Festival." A Google search produces other examples like this. ABF99 ( talk) 01:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now as there seems to be no obviously good move target and there's simply not much else especially to suggest keeping. SwisterTwister talk 07:33, 7 October 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  19:53, 9 October 2015 (UTC) reply

Hi, I created the page. Apologies for all the confusion, I am very new to this. I have added more references, how do I remove the nomination for deletion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SAHartline ( talkcontribs) 16:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC) reply

SAHartline At this point, you can't remove the nomination for deletion; it has to go through a process whereby Wikipedia editors weigh in on what they think ought to be done with the article. Within a few days, an admin or other editor will read the responses and decide based on the consensus that was (or in some cases, was not) reached, what to do with the article. You can ask for a deletion review if the article is deleted. This explanation is worth reading. ABF99 ( talk) 01:03, 13 October 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Redirect to Sarah Townsend as they are the same person per evidence provided by ABF99. —  JJMC89( T· C) 02:17, 13 October 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Sarah Townsend. The discussion proved that the two individuals were one and the same. Based on that, and the dialogue amongst the editors, consensus is to redirect. ( non-admin closure) Onel5969 TT me 21:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC) reply

Sarah McGuinness

Sarah McGuinness (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

I can't find any significant coverage of the artist or the track "Mama Can You See Me Now" from the soundtrack. Fails WP:GNG Flat Out ( talk) 04:33, 30 September 2015 (UTC) reply

To me it appears it should be a redirect to Sarah Townsend - they are the same person according to this article. Bonnie ( talk) 04:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Agree with Bonnie to redirect or merge to Sarah Townsend, which is also listed as Sarah McGuinesses' birth name in this Wiki article. ABF99 ( talk) 05:06, 30 September 2015 (UTC) reply

Hi, I created the page. Apologies as WIKI is still very new to me. If we connect the mcguinness page to the townsend page will it then meet the requirements to avoid deletion as they are both the same page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SAHartline ( talkcontribs) 16:36, 30 September 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Redirect as far as I can tell all relevant information is already in the Townsend article, so a redirect seems most appropriate to me. The references in the McGuiness article may be useful though. AtHomeIn神戸 ( talk) 01:39, 1 October 2015 (UTC) reply
  • DO NOT REDIRECT -- UNCLEAR if Sarah McGuinness and Sarah Townsend are the same person -- I am not prepared to take the word of @SAHartline at this moment. Lack of viable redirect means DELETION is only option. SAHartline can update the other article if he/she chooses. Quis separabit? 15:15, 5 October 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC) reply

Comment -That Sarah McGuiness and Sarah Townsend are the same person has been confirmed by either McGuiness or a spokesperson in several different reliable sources. From The UK Express "A spokesman for Sarah clarified: “Yes, it is the same person and like many other artists (including Agatha Christie and Stephen King), Sarah chooses to write and record music under a different name and this is purely to separate her musical ­activities from her other work.” From The Scotsman: "Not only are McGuinness and Townsend the same person, she is also Izzard's ex-girlfriend, she confirms. They met in 1989 when she was running a Fringe venue at the Edinburgh Festival." A Google search produces other examples like this. ABF99 ( talk) 01:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 23:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now as there seems to be no obviously good move target and there's simply not much else especially to suggest keeping. SwisterTwister talk 07:33, 7 October 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  19:53, 9 October 2015 (UTC) reply

Hi, I created the page. Apologies for all the confusion, I am very new to this. I have added more references, how do I remove the nomination for deletion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SAHartline ( talkcontribs) 16:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC) reply

SAHartline At this point, you can't remove the nomination for deletion; it has to go through a process whereby Wikipedia editors weigh in on what they think ought to be done with the article. Within a few days, an admin or other editor will read the responses and decide based on the consensus that was (or in some cases, was not) reached, what to do with the article. You can ask for a deletion review if the article is deleted. This explanation is worth reading. ABF99 ( talk) 01:03, 13 October 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Redirect to Sarah Townsend as they are the same person per evidence provided by ABF99. —  JJMC89( T· C) 02:17, 13 October 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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