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The result was keep. Fenix down ( talk) 08:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Salman Ahmed Al-Ansari
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Article primarily written by an account associated with the individual. The article draws heavily from primary sources and uses secondary sources that only briefly mention the subject. Article fails to satisfy WP:GNG—working at a law firm, writing an article, and running workshops at a college are not enough to merit an article. Laurel Wreath of Victors ‖ Speak 💬 ‖ 05:57, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment The article claims the subject was a former national football player. There is a Goalkeeper called Salman Ahmed Al-Ansari who played for Qatar but his Date of Birth is 13 June 1983 and not 1 January 1981 as mentioned in the article .As per this and This he passes WP:NFOOTY if it refers to the Goalkeeper.I went through his profile on his company website but it does not mention he played for Qatar as per this.Hence not sure if it refers to the Goalkeeper or is erroneously mentioned. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 09:05, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I have raised the question about this person on WT:FOOTY a few months ago ( here) but sadly didn't have time to follow up. Basically, it looks like it was an article about a football player who passes on WP:NFOOTY grounds that was baldly rewritten about a lawyer person with the same name. This needs to be undone. -- BlameRuiner ( talk) 09:46, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep passes subject specific guidelines WP:FOOTBALL. Source added. Clearly about the Qatari international footballer but re-written by a close source to make it more about the lawyering. Added ref to show 2002/2003 international appearances. Needs a good copy edit, which I started but don't have time to complete. Not sure how much of his lawyering is notable but cursory search did show he is -or was- president of the Qatar Professional Players Association and is on some committee or other to do with the World Cup bid. Club Oranje T 12:03, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- From reading the diff and the name of the account that added this, and applying some simple arithmetic, it seems that the more likely explanation is that this is the same person, who came to Wikipedia to update an article about xyrself to explain that xe is a lawyer now and correct xyr own date of birth, and here is a load of autobiography from the site of xyr law firm to prove it. It has, after all, been some 13 years since the football career.
According to the potted blurb in the byline for سلمان أحمد الأنصاري in Al-Jazeera, this person is President of the Qatari Players' Association, Vice President of the Qatar Foundation for Sports Arbitration and member of the FIFA Appeal Committee. The QFSA post may well be the case. It's worth checking out that maybe this person does have the career claimed after playing football in xyr early 20s.
You thought to look in Arabic, right?
- Keep per CLubOranje. Giant Snowman 13:03, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Fenix down ( talk) 08:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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Article primarily written by an account associated with the individual. The article draws heavily from primary sources and uses secondary sources that only briefly mention the subject. Article fails to satisfy WP:GNG—working at a law firm, writing an article, and running workshops at a college are not enough to merit an article. Laurel Wreath of Victors ‖ Speak 💬 ‖ 05:57, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment The article claims the subject was a former national football player. There is a Goalkeeper called Salman Ahmed Al-Ansari who played for Qatar but his Date of Birth is 13 June 1983 and not 1 January 1981 as mentioned in the article .As per this and This he passes WP:NFOOTY if it refers to the Goalkeeper.I went through his profile on his company website but it does not mention he played for Qatar as per this.Hence not sure if it refers to the Goalkeeper or is erroneously mentioned. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 09:05, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I have raised the question about this person on WT:FOOTY a few months ago ( here) but sadly didn't have time to follow up. Basically, it looks like it was an article about a football player who passes on WP:NFOOTY grounds that was baldly rewritten about a lawyer person with the same name. This needs to be undone. -- BlameRuiner ( talk) 09:46, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep passes subject specific guidelines WP:FOOTBALL. Source added. Clearly about the Qatari international footballer but re-written by a close source to make it more about the lawyering. Added ref to show 2002/2003 international appearances. Needs a good copy edit, which I started but don't have time to complete. Not sure how much of his lawyering is notable but cursory search did show he is -or was- president of the Qatar Professional Players Association and is on some committee or other to do with the World Cup bid. Club Oranje T 12:03, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
- From reading the diff and the name of the account that added this, and applying some simple arithmetic, it seems that the more likely explanation is that this is the same person, who came to Wikipedia to update an article about xyrself to explain that xe is a lawyer now and correct xyr own date of birth, and here is a load of autobiography from the site of xyr law firm to prove it. It has, after all, been some 13 years since the football career.
According to the potted blurb in the byline for سلمان أحمد الأنصاري in Al-Jazeera, this person is President of the Qatari Players' Association, Vice President of the Qatar Foundation for Sports Arbitration and member of the FIFA Appeal Committee. The QFSA post may well be the case. It's worth checking out that maybe this person does have the career claimed after playing football in xyr early 20s.
You thought to look in Arabic, right?
- Keep per CLubOranje. Giant Snowman 13:03, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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