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The result was delete. Delete votes seem pretty clear that despite significant searching, no sources could be found to support GNG. The fact that he passes nfooty is not relevant if GNG cannot be substantiated. Fenix down ( talk) 06:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Salem Khalvan
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Despite playing limited game-time in the UAE Pro-League, the search for his name in the articles doesn't seem to be in any of the articles that I've searched which might make a case for WP:GNG. HawkAussie ( talk) 00:45, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep - Soccerway confirms at least 13 appearances in the fully-pro UAE Pro-League (meaning he meets
WP:NFOOTBALL) - plus 9 cup games - and I refuse to believe, given his youth and ongoing career, that there are no sources out there. There are 3.25million results on Google for "سالم خلفان" (his Arabic name, apparently) - has nominator complied with
WP:BEFORE and searched?
Giant
Snowman 15:41, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - Yes I did do a WP:BEFORE and those results for that particular football player didn't show up as it had either the first or the last part of the name but not together that isn't a passing mention of him. HawkAussie ( talk) 23:22, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hey GS, remember when you recently nominated an article for deletion and it was kept because other !voters found GNG sources? Nobody asked, "Has nominator complied with WP:BEFORE?". Maybe you could extend the same WP:AGF to others? – Leviv ich 18:20, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note his name is Khalfan not Khalvan as per this.The page needs to be moved. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 06:33, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - I am struggling to find coverage of this footballer in English- or Arabic-language sources. There are many Emiratis with Salem and/or Khalfan in their names, and even when I limit the search by adding football or Sharjah, I continuously get results about the referee (Ahmed Salem Khalfan) or in an Al Bayan article a line about a former Ahli Dubai player with the same name. The Sharjah footballer certainly exists and has made several appearances in the UAE Pro League (I can find Arabic and English language database entries), but I'm troubled that it's so difficult to find substantive coverage (adding Saif to the search typically yields nothing). Jogurney ( talk) 19:08, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 06:36, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 06:36, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete – "no sources, no article". I'm not seeing/finding any sources. – Leviv ich 20:34, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep There is a article in Arabic Wikipedia here ,subject passes WP:NFOOTY is 24 years old and has a ongoing career and as per WP:NEXIST. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 20:43, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - I've tried to find Arabic-language sources other than the UAE Pro League's website (which just has a database entry), and completely failed. Perhaps there are offline sources, but until someone finds them, I don't think we should have an article. Jogurney ( talk) 21:16, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Delete votes seem pretty clear that despite significant searching, no sources could be found to support GNG. The fact that he passes nfooty is not relevant if GNG cannot be substantiated. Fenix down ( talk) 06:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Salem Khalvan
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Despite playing limited game-time in the UAE Pro-League, the search for his name in the articles doesn't seem to be in any of the articles that I've searched which might make a case for WP:GNG. HawkAussie ( talk) 00:45, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie ( talk) 00:45, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie ( talk) 00:45, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie ( talk) 00:45, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 08:10, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - Soccerway confirms at least 13 appearances in the fully-pro UAE Pro-League (meaning he meets
WP:NFOOTBALL) - plus 9 cup games - and I refuse to believe, given his youth and ongoing career, that there are no sources out there. There are 3.25million results on Google for "سالم خلفان" (his Arabic name, apparently) - has nominator complied with
WP:BEFORE and searched?
Giant
Snowman 15:41, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - Yes I did do a WP:BEFORE and those results for that particular football player didn't show up as it had either the first or the last part of the name but not together that isn't a passing mention of him. HawkAussie ( talk) 23:22, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hey GS, remember when you recently nominated an article for deletion and it was kept because other !voters found GNG sources? Nobody asked, "Has nominator complied with WP:BEFORE?". Maybe you could extend the same WP:AGF to others? – Leviv ich 18:20, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note his name is Khalfan not Khalvan as per this.The page needs to be moved. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 06:33, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - I am struggling to find coverage of this footballer in English- or Arabic-language sources. There are many Emiratis with Salem and/or Khalfan in their names, and even when I limit the search by adding football or Sharjah, I continuously get results about the referee (Ahmed Salem Khalfan) or in an Al Bayan article a line about a former Ahli Dubai player with the same name. The Sharjah footballer certainly exists and has made several appearances in the UAE Pro League (I can find Arabic and English language database entries), but I'm troubled that it's so difficult to find substantive coverage (adding Saif to the search typically yields nothing). Jogurney ( talk) 19:08, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 06:36, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down ( talk) 06:36, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete – "no sources, no article". I'm not seeing/finding any sources. – Leviv ich 20:34, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep There is a article in Arabic Wikipedia here ,subject passes WP:NFOOTY is 24 years old and has a ongoing career and as per WP:NEXIST. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 20:43, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - I've tried to find Arabic-language sources other than the UAE Pro League's website (which just has a database entry), and completely failed. Perhaps there are offline sources, but until someone finds them, I don't think we should have an article. Jogurney ( talk) 21:16, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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