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The result was keep. No compelling arguments to delete. Geschichte ( talk) 15:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Saga (singer)
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This persons only claim to fame seems to be that she was mentioned once in a terrorists notes. ★Trekker ( talk) 21:02, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete a non-notable singer. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Strong keep. There is an entire chapter ("Lament for a People") dedicated to her in Benjamin R. Teitelbaum's Lions of the North: Sounds of the New Nordic Radical Nationalism (Oxford University Press, 2017), which was favourably reviewed not only in academic publications but also in Swedish newspapers for the general public, like Aftonbladet. Some older references, like this article in the Guardian which predates the Utøya massacre, have also been removed from the article since the last AfD discussion, but that's not really important in the light of Teitelbaum's book and the discussion around Saga found in reviews of it, like this one in Arbetaren. I've expanded the article somewhat using Teitelbaum's book. / Julle ( talk) 06:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- To quote sv:Rebecka Kärde in her review in Arbetaren, linked above (my translation): "Sweden's biggest fascist music export is a woman, though. She calls herself Saga, is one of the most successful nationalistic artists in the world ..." ("nationalistic" here to be understood more or less in the "white supremacy" sense, or at least as ethnopluralism). / Julle ( talk) 06:15, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete No evidence of Notability , Samat lib ( talk) 10:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete. Discussion in a book doesn't pertain to her notability, her career and reporting on her as a person does. There is little to no notable reporting on her specifically, so she's not notable.-- Bettydaisies ( talk) 19:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Discussion in a book most certainly does pertain to her notability. pburka ( talk) 21:25, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. She seems notable based on the comments above and the sources in the article. 136.34.184.131 ( talk) 21:32, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - She is an repulsive person. But sadly notable within WP:GNG. BabbaQ ( talk) 17:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result was keep. No compelling arguments to delete. Geschichte ( talk) 15:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Saga (singer)
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This persons only claim to fame seems to be that she was mentioned once in a terrorists notes. ★Trekker ( talk) 21:02, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ★Trekker ( talk) 21:02, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 21:29, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 21:29, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable singer. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 19:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
- Strong keep. There is an entire chapter ("Lament for a People") dedicated to her in Benjamin R. Teitelbaum's Lions of the North: Sounds of the New Nordic Radical Nationalism (Oxford University Press, 2017), which was favourably reviewed not only in academic publications but also in Swedish newspapers for the general public, like Aftonbladet. Some older references, like this article in the Guardian which predates the Utøya massacre, have also been removed from the article since the last AfD discussion, but that's not really important in the light of Teitelbaum's book and the discussion around Saga found in reviews of it, like this one in Arbetaren. I've expanded the article somewhat using Teitelbaum's book. / Julle ( talk) 06:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- To quote sv:Rebecka Kärde in her review in Arbetaren, linked above (my translation): "Sweden's biggest fascist music export is a woman, though. She calls herself Saga, is one of the most successful nationalistic artists in the world ..." ("nationalistic" here to be understood more or less in the "white supremacy" sense, or at least as ethnopluralism). / Julle ( talk) 06:15, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete No evidence of Notability , Samat lib ( talk) 10:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 18:10, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 18:10, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Discussion in a book doesn't pertain to her notability, her career and reporting on her as a person does. There is little to no notable reporting on her specifically, so she's not notable.-- Bettydaisies ( talk) 19:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Discussion in a book most certainly does pertain to her notability. pburka ( talk) 21:25, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. She seems notable based on the comments above and the sources in the article. 136.34.184.131 ( talk) 21:32, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - She is an repulsive person. But sadly notable within WP:GNG. BabbaQ ( talk) 17:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northern Escapee ( talk) 18:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northern Escapee ( talk) 18:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
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