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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 00:15, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
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Not enough independent sources to proof notability. The Banner talk 18:52, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete it doesnt appear to be particulary noteworthy although the rather bad english makes it hard to actually understand what the article is about, I had to use a google translation of the sphair.ch website to understand it is just a screening process for candidates, hardly worth an article. MilborneOne ( talk) 20:41, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 21:06, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 21:06, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Bad English is NOT a reason for deletion.. native English speaker can improve it easy. SPHAIR is notable, because it is the first step in Switzerland for all future militarypilots, airlinerpilots, Military parachutists, Military and civil Air traffic Controllers and al Searc& rescue Pilots. SPHAIR is a "substitut2 of the Swiss Air Force, Swiss International Airlines Ldt. REGA Air Rescue Service an Skyguide (Air Traffic control) under the lead of the Swiss Air Force. Absolutly notable for Wikipedia. Just an other manhunt against me from the Banner.
FFA P-16 (
talk)
05:24, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- I have not nominated it for bad English but for lack of independent sources to prove that it is noteworthy. The Banner talk 07:17, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable as presented for stand alone article; could mention in the appropriate Swiss air article or articles. Kierzek ( talk) 17:37, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep No Swiss Air Force pilot is going to become a pilot without them. -- MBurch ( talk) 03:20, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - Wikipedia is not a guide into joining the Swiss Air Force, all pilot (and military) jobs need a selection process it doesnt make them notable.
MilborneOne (
talk)
08:40, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- @MilborneOne, no not all jobs need (such) an Selection process (also not all jobs in Aviation). Also it is more than just selection. Also it is not only for Jobs by the Swiss Air Force, it is also for civil SAR , for airliners and Air Traffic Controller, so it covers much more than just the Swiss Air Force. FFA P-16 ( talk) 10:52, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - I would be suprised if you could find a professional or military pilot job that doesnt include some sort of selection process. In the end this is just a localised variant of what is standard practice in aviation and a lot of other fields, and as such not really noteworthy. MilborneOne ( talk) 10:56, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- It is not a local variant, it is a National wide and the one in Ch&FL, and not only for Mil/civ pilots.. also for Mil/Civ Airtraffic controller therefore it is notable. FFA P-16 ( talk) 11:51, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Local variant in this context means Switzerland, this encyclopedia is not Swissapedia and this is one of tens of thousands of selection procedures/processes around the world none of them noteworthy.
MilborneOne (
talk)
11:56, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- But is the institution also for people from France, Germany, Italy Austria who want become a civil airliner pilot, Air Traffic controller, or SAR Crew by an swiss airliner, skyguide or REGA. And again it is not only selection it is also basic teaching. FFA P-16 ( talk) 12:01, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: G'day, I wonder if this might be a topic that could be covered as a section in a larger article, rather than as a stand alone article? Regards,
AustralianRupert (
talk)
06:31, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- That's a good idea: this does seem a rather standard type of assessment for aspiring military pilots so isn't likely to be notable in its own right. It could be merged into a
Pilot selection and training in the Swiss Air Force article or similar.
Nick-D (
talk)
23:59, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- But ist is not only for for aspiring military pilots, it is also for military parajumpers, and for civilian aspiring airliner pilots, civilan search&recue Rega (air rescue) crews and civilian Air Traffic controller skyguide and military Tactical Fighter controller (also from skyguide). FFA P-16 ( talk) 10:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- That's a good idea: this does seem a rather standard type of assessment for aspiring military pilots so isn't likely to be notable in its own right. It could be merged into a
Pilot selection and training in the Swiss Air Force article or similar.
Nick-D (
talk)
23:59, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 23:13, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 23:13, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete -- Wikipedia is not a recruitment tool; this content belongs on the org's web site:
- "Sphair also paves the way for the recruitment..." Etc.
- K.e.coffman ( talk) 00:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. – Juliancolton | Talk 00:15, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
- SPHAIR ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Not enough independent sources to proof notability. The Banner talk 18:52, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete it doesnt appear to be particulary noteworthy although the rather bad english makes it hard to actually understand what the article is about, I had to use a google translation of the sphair.ch website to understand it is just a screening process for candidates, hardly worth an article. MilborneOne ( talk) 20:41, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 21:06, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 21:06, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Bad English is NOT a reason for deletion.. native English speaker can improve it easy. SPHAIR is notable, because it is the first step in Switzerland for all future militarypilots, airlinerpilots, Military parachutists, Military and civil Air traffic Controllers and al Searc& rescue Pilots. SPHAIR is a "substitut2 of the Swiss Air Force, Swiss International Airlines Ldt. REGA Air Rescue Service an Skyguide (Air Traffic control) under the lead of the Swiss Air Force. Absolutly notable for Wikipedia. Just an other manhunt against me from the Banner.
FFA P-16 (
talk)
05:24, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- I have not nominated it for bad English but for lack of independent sources to prove that it is noteworthy. The Banner talk 07:17, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable as presented for stand alone article; could mention in the appropriate Swiss air article or articles. Kierzek ( talk) 17:37, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- Keep No Swiss Air Force pilot is going to become a pilot without them. -- MBurch ( talk) 03:20, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - Wikipedia is not a guide into joining the Swiss Air Force, all pilot (and military) jobs need a selection process it doesnt make them notable.
MilborneOne (
talk)
08:40, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- @MilborneOne, no not all jobs need (such) an Selection process (also not all jobs in Aviation). Also it is more than just selection. Also it is not only for Jobs by the Swiss Air Force, it is also for civil SAR , for airliners and Air Traffic Controller, so it covers much more than just the Swiss Air Force. FFA P-16 ( talk) 10:52, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Comment - I would be suprised if you could find a professional or military pilot job that doesnt include some sort of selection process. In the end this is just a localised variant of what is standard practice in aviation and a lot of other fields, and as such not really noteworthy. MilborneOne ( talk) 10:56, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- It is not a local variant, it is a National wide and the one in Ch&FL, and not only for Mil/civ pilots.. also for Mil/Civ Airtraffic controller therefore it is notable. FFA P-16 ( talk) 11:51, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Local variant in this context means Switzerland, this encyclopedia is not Swissapedia and this is one of tens of thousands of selection procedures/processes around the world none of them noteworthy.
MilborneOne (
talk)
11:56, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- But is the institution also for people from France, Germany, Italy Austria who want become a civil airliner pilot, Air Traffic controller, or SAR Crew by an swiss airliner, skyguide or REGA. And again it is not only selection it is also basic teaching. FFA P-16 ( talk) 12:01, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Comment: G'day, I wonder if this might be a topic that could be covered as a section in a larger article, rather than as a stand alone article? Regards,
AustralianRupert (
talk)
06:31, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- That's a good idea: this does seem a rather standard type of assessment for aspiring military pilots so isn't likely to be notable in its own right. It could be merged into a
Pilot selection and training in the Swiss Air Force article or similar.
Nick-D (
talk)
23:59, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- But ist is not only for for aspiring military pilots, it is also for military parajumpers, and for civilian aspiring airliner pilots, civilan search&recue Rega (air rescue) crews and civilian Air Traffic controller skyguide and military Tactical Fighter controller (also from skyguide). FFA P-16 ( talk) 10:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- That's a good idea: this does seem a rather standard type of assessment for aspiring military pilots so isn't likely to be notable in its own right. It could be merged into a
Pilot selection and training in the Swiss Air Force article or similar.
Nick-D (
talk)
23:59, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 23:13, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 23:13, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete -- Wikipedia is not a recruitment tool; this content belongs on the org's web site:
- "Sphair also paves the way for the recruitment..." Etc.
- K.e.coffman ( talk) 00:35, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.