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The result was no consensus. Further discussion can continue on the article's talk page, if desired. North America 1000 08:53, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
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Literally just a list of trainees with questionable notability who have either moved on to debut in a group or are still training. Abdotorg ( talk) 18:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed, no significant coverage of members that aren't already a part of existing groups. No singles or shows that have charted well. Trainees are essentially non-notable by definition - they haven't debuted. Unless they make some notable news outside their musical trainee status, they probably shouldn't be listed here. Evaders99 ( talk) 20:18, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- I disagree. This article might be alternatively used as a reference. Maybe at this point there is already no importance for the coverage of the current trainees listed, and the members who are now part of the groups Red Velvet and NCT occasionally references to their pre-debut activities as "SM Rookies." The project once had a large significance, but after NCT's debut, the project was not much given attention. Dominichikaru ( talk) 13:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Korea-related deletion discussions. Abdotorg ( talk) 18:34, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 00:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Merge to S.M. Entertainment. Though most of the information doesn't even belong here or the label article in the first place, but the group's or individual singer's articles. "Pre-debut" has become a pretty terrible neologism in K-pop beyond its dictionary definition and is really just a marketing ploy ( Kard released several singles since 2016 and just "debuted" this past July? Suuure...). The trainee system is a peculiar scheme in South Korean and Japan that is worth noting, but anything beyond a simple list falls into an indiscriminate fan-factoid mess. ℯ xplicit 01:13, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Rather than deleting the article, merging this to S.M. Entertainment would be a great idea. However, put all the names of the current trainees there with a reference, then delete them once they made their debut. 1.230.125.232 ( talk) 00:42, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 12:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 12:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Further discussion can continue on the article's talk page, if desired. North America 1000 08:53, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
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Literally just a list of trainees with questionable notability who have either moved on to debut in a group or are still training. Abdotorg ( talk) 18:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed, no significant coverage of members that aren't already a part of existing groups. No singles or shows that have charted well. Trainees are essentially non-notable by definition - they haven't debuted. Unless they make some notable news outside their musical trainee status, they probably shouldn't be listed here. Evaders99 ( talk) 20:18, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- I disagree. This article might be alternatively used as a reference. Maybe at this point there is already no importance for the coverage of the current trainees listed, and the members who are now part of the groups Red Velvet and NCT occasionally references to their pre-debut activities as "SM Rookies." The project once had a large significance, but after NCT's debut, the project was not much given attention. Dominichikaru ( talk) 13:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Korea-related deletion discussions. Abdotorg ( talk) 18:34, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga ( talk • mail) 00:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
- Merge to S.M. Entertainment. Though most of the information doesn't even belong here or the label article in the first place, but the group's or individual singer's articles. "Pre-debut" has become a pretty terrible neologism in K-pop beyond its dictionary definition and is really just a marketing ploy ( Kard released several singles since 2016 and just "debuted" this past July? Suuure...). The trainee system is a peculiar scheme in South Korean and Japan that is worth noting, but anything beyond a simple list falls into an indiscriminate fan-factoid mess. ℯ xplicit 01:13, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Rather than deleting the article, merging this to S.M. Entertainment would be a great idea. However, put all the names of the current trainees there with a reference, then delete them once they made their debut. 1.230.125.232 ( talk) 00:42, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 12:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 12:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 22:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
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