- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. While I sympathise with a number of the comments regarding how difficult it is finding sources that provide SIGCOV and therefore notability as defined by Wikipedia's inclusion standards, the upshot is that as we do not provide original research we need this material to exist to have articles on the site. The consensus is that the coverage is not significant and therefore doesn't meet the general notability guideline. Daniel ( talk) 00:50, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 ( talk) 01:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep: playing 11 international matches is more than enough to establish
notability of a footballer.
Dazzling4 (
talk)
01:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - The number is international caps isn't relevant when establishing notability as per WP:GNG. Simione001 ( talk) 02:06, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:08, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete clearly fails WP:GNG, the fact he played internationally is irrelevant and does not inherently confer any notability. Angelo ( talk) 13:26, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Will probably get deleted (as will most NK articles), but I've added as much as I could find in Chinese media. Being a North Korean footballer, it is impossible to find any coverage in North Korean media, as it is not accessible, though I've no doubt there is coverage within the nation.
Davidlofgren1996 (
talk)
20:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - The criteria used for these North Korean players are terrible. Nam Song-chol, who played in the 2010 FIFA World Cup, was deleted (arbitrarily in my opinion, as the discussion did not reach a clear consensus). Svartner ( talk) 01:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting so that recent additions to the article can be assessed.
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- Keep - @
GiantSnowman:, Many sources have been added to article. Has many sources, especially for a North Korean player, and has fully pro experience in the
Chinese Super League. Thanks,
Das osmnezz (
talk)
18:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- which of these gives SIGCOV of this player? Giant Snowman 19:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete: BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Nothing above, BEFORE, or in article meets WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. BLPs require strong sourcing. // Timothy :: talk 13:42, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. While I sympathise with a number of the comments regarding how difficult it is finding sources that provide SIGCOV and therefore notability as defined by Wikipedia's inclusion standards, the upshot is that as we do not provide original research we need this material to exist to have articles on the site. The consensus is that the coverage is not significant and therefore doesn't meet the general notability guideline. Daniel ( talk) 00:50, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
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- Ryang Myong-il ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 ( talk) 01:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Simione001 ( talk) 01:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Simione001 ( talk) 01:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Simione001 ( talk) 01:21, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of North Korea-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: playing 11 international matches is more than enough to establish
notability of a footballer.
Dazzling4 (
talk)
01:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - The number is international caps isn't relevant when establishing notability as per WP:GNG. Simione001 ( talk) 02:06, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 20:06, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:08, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete clearly fails WP:GNG, the fact he played internationally is irrelevant and does not inherently confer any notability. Angelo ( talk) 13:26, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Will probably get deleted (as will most NK articles), but I've added as much as I could find in Chinese media. Being a North Korean footballer, it is impossible to find any coverage in North Korean media, as it is not accessible, though I've no doubt there is coverage within the nation.
Davidlofgren1996 (
talk)
20:20, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - The criteria used for these North Korean players are terrible. Nam Song-chol, who played in the 2010 FIFA World Cup, was deleted (arbitrarily in my opinion, as the discussion did not reach a clear consensus). Svartner ( talk) 01:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting so that recent additions to the article can be assessed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:00, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - @
GiantSnowman:, Many sources have been added to article. Has many sources, especially for a North Korean player, and has fully pro experience in the
Chinese Super League. Thanks,
Das osmnezz (
talk)
18:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- which of these gives SIGCOV of this player? Giant Snowman 19:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Nothing above, BEFORE, or in article meets WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. BLPs require strong sourcing. // Timothy :: talk 13:42, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.