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The result was merge to Haken (band). ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 03:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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WP:BLP of a musician notable as a member of a band, not reliably sourced as having sufficient standalone notability independently of the band to qualify for his own standalone BLP. As always, every member of a band is not automatically entitled to his own separate biographical article just because he exists -- what has to be shown is that he gets over WP:GNG as an individual, by virtue of having received his own media coverage independently of the band as a whole. But the sources here are not reliable or notability-building ones: four are his and the band's own self-published web presence on their own website and social networking or music sales platforms, two are directory entries in databases, and the two that are marginally acceptable still just briefly namecheck Ross Jennings' existence in the process of being primarily about other people. All of which means that exactly zero of the footnotes are reliable or notability-making sources about Ross Jennings, and nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have better sourcing than this. Bearcat ( talk) 17:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 17:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 17:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Haken (band): a Google search shows that he's generally described as "Haken's Ross Jennings" or similar, but there doesn't appear to be any coverage of him that's independent of the band. ~dom Kaos~ ( talk) 18:49, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Haken (band) - That band has achieved notability, but this singer's activities outside the band have not, and his solo article is dependent on sources that are actually about Haken. His solo article can be revived in the future if that aspect of his career takes off. ☆ DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) ☆ 19:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Haken. He may become notable enough one day to be worth a separate article, but not yet. Victor Lopes Fala!• C 00:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to Haken (band). This didn't really need to come to AfD. -- Michig ( talk) 11:01, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Merge selectively as suggested. Bearian ( talk) 15:24, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Haken (band). ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 03:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Ross Jennings (singer) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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WP:BLP of a musician notable as a member of a band, not reliably sourced as having sufficient standalone notability independently of the band to qualify for his own standalone BLP. As always, every member of a band is not automatically entitled to his own separate biographical article just because he exists -- what has to be shown is that he gets over WP:GNG as an individual, by virtue of having received his own media coverage independently of the band as a whole. But the sources here are not reliable or notability-building ones: four are his and the band's own self-published web presence on their own website and social networking or music sales platforms, two are directory entries in databases, and the two that are marginally acceptable still just briefly namecheck Ross Jennings' existence in the process of being primarily about other people. All of which means that exactly zero of the footnotes are reliable or notability-making sources about Ross Jennings, and nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have better sourcing than this. Bearcat ( talk) 17:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 17:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 17:34, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Haken (band): a Google search shows that he's generally described as "Haken's Ross Jennings" or similar, but there doesn't appear to be any coverage of him that's independent of the band. ~dom Kaos~ ( talk) 18:49, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Haken (band) - That band has achieved notability, but this singer's activities outside the band have not, and his solo article is dependent on sources that are actually about Haken. His solo article can be revived in the future if that aspect of his career takes off. ☆ DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) ☆ 19:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Haken. He may become notable enough one day to be worth a separate article, but not yet. Victor Lopes Fala!• C 00:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to Haken (band). This didn't really need to come to AfD. -- Michig ( talk) 11:01, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Merge selectively as suggested. Bearian ( talk) 15:24, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.