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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure) – Deacon Vorbis ( carbon • videos) 21:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Roger Treat
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Unref article on recently deceased person. Wrote books but I'm not seeing him meeting
WP:AUTHOR or
WP:GNG.
Boleyn (
talk) 08:35, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Delete per nom-- Devoke water 09:51, 27 July 2020 (UTC)Weak DeleteKeep. His Encyclopedia of Football seems like one of the definitive works in the (niche-ish) field, based on what I've turned up, so that's a small point in favor of WP:AUTHOR criterion 1:… is widely cited by peers or successors
. It was also reviewed twice in the NYT; the latter (a "briefly noted") described it as a "standard reference work" in the field. But I can't find any sustained biographical coverage on him that would back up claims in the article. Caveat: I don't have a Newspapers.com subscription, and given that he was primarily a newspaper journalist I'd expect any biographical coverage to appear there. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 19:02, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Spoke too soon. I found obits in the Boston Globe and Washington Post. Will add in a bit. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 19:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 19:09, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Sourcing added to article after nom. Also, my search of Newspapers.com reveals abundant coverage of his death in newspapers across the country as well as reviews of his books. Cbl62 ( talk) 20:00, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 20:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. sources added. -- Devoke water 20:14, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG per the sources added to the article. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 10:45, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Snow Keep nice job adding sources and improving article, clearly exceeds WP:GNG.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 14:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- KEEP sources found proving this person is clearly notable. Dream Focus 14:48, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep With sources such as the Boston Globe and Washington Post calling him an expert, it's hard to see how he doesn't meet criteria 1 of
WP:AUTHOR. ----
Ahecht (
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- Keep per WP:HEY. Enough sources now to either meet WP:BASIC or WP:AUTHOR. Thanks, AleatoryPonderings, for finding those sources and for the article improvement. Obviously this article has needed some love for a long time. - Whisperjanes ( talk) 02:50, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ Boleyn: Given that the improvements and vote count, would you consider withdrawing? Cbl62 ( talk) 15:23, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- Withdraw nomination per all the good points made above. Thanks everyone, Boleyn ( talk) 15:24, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure) – Deacon Vorbis ( carbon • videos) 21:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Roger Treat
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Unref article on recently deceased person. Wrote books but I'm not seeing him meeting
WP:AUTHOR or
WP:GNG.
Boleyn (
talk) 08:35, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Delete per nom-- Devoke water 09:51, 27 July 2020 (UTC)Weak DeleteKeep. His Encyclopedia of Football seems like one of the definitive works in the (niche-ish) field, based on what I've turned up, so that's a small point in favor of WP:AUTHOR criterion 1:… is widely cited by peers or successors
. It was also reviewed twice in the NYT; the latter (a "briefly noted") described it as a "standard reference work" in the field. But I can't find any sustained biographical coverage on him that would back up claims in the article. Caveat: I don't have a Newspapers.com subscription, and given that he was primarily a newspaper journalist I'd expect any biographical coverage to appear there. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 19:02, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Spoke too soon. I found obits in the Boston Globe and Washington Post. Will add in a bit. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 19:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 19:09, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Sourcing added to article after nom. Also, my search of Newspapers.com reveals abundant coverage of his death in newspapers across the country as well as reviews of his books. Cbl62 ( talk) 20:00, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 20:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. sources added. -- Devoke water 20:14, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:GNG per the sources added to the article. Ejgreen77 ( talk) 10:45, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Snow Keep nice job adding sources and improving article, clearly exceeds WP:GNG.-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 14:10, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- KEEP sources found proving this person is clearly notable. Dream Focus 14:48, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep With sources such as the Boston Globe and Washington Post calling him an expert, it's hard to see how he doesn't meet criteria 1 of
WP:AUTHOR. ----
Ahecht (
TALK
PAGE) 15:09, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 23:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:HEY. Enough sources now to either meet WP:BASIC or WP:AUTHOR. Thanks, AleatoryPonderings, for finding those sources and for the article improvement. Obviously this article has needed some love for a long time. - Whisperjanes ( talk) 02:50, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ Boleyn: Given that the improvements and vote count, would you consider withdrawing? Cbl62 ( talk) 15:23, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
- Withdraw nomination per all the good points made above. Thanks everyone, Boleyn ( talk) 15:24, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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