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The result was delete. While the accomplishments listed in the article may pass NACTOR, there simply aren't enough reliable sources to verify the information. If new sources are found or become available, this should probably be revisited. – bradv 🍁 00:03, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Robyn Gibbes
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A non notable actor with no reliable sources apparent. Potential COI issues. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 07:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - google news search also shows no RS. Darylgolden( talk) Ping when replying 11:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Strong keep Gibbes is famous in Australia for being on Prisoner. That alone is notable, but her early appearance on Round The Twist is also notable. She was a significant Australian actress! -
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- Thanks Chris.sherlock - are there any independent secondary sources that would demonstrate notability? At the moment the only two external links are a fan site and IMDB, neither of which are reliable sources for the purposes of WP:GNG Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 16:46, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Check IMDB - in this case just to see the incredible list of notable shows she appeared on. She made appearances on Blue Heelers, Sea Change, Home and Away, All Saints, Wildside, Water Rats, GP, The Flying Doctors and The Young Doctors, all extremely significant Australian dramas, in a different age of Australia.
- It’s probably more helpful to check Trove to find secondary sources given her age - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22Robyn+Gibbes%22
- What I’m saying is that she satisfies
WP:NACTOR. -
Chris.sherlock (
talk) 16:53, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- I’ve checked Trove and there’s nothing substantial that would indicate notability. A list of credits on IMDB does not indicate notability, and notability can’t be inherited by just appearing in a minor role on a notable programme. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 19:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a fan site and IMBd are two extremely non-reliable sources. Wikipedia is supposed to be built on reliable sources, not this type of junk. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- Weak Keep: I have absolutely no problem keeping this article in terms of WP:NACTOR, because the subject has had significant roles in very famous Australian TV shows, including Round the Twist and Prisoner: Cell Block H. As for WP:GNG, there are clearly some problems, although here are a couple of sources which may help—the first is a BuzzFeed article, which isn't the most reliable of news outlets, but it isn't the worst, either; and the second is an excerpt from a Variety review of a film, Wild Horses (1984), which provides a much briefer comment on the subject:
- → https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliawilling/what-the-cast-of-round-the-twist-looks-like-today
- → https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UXJZAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Robyn+Gibbes%22+-wikipedia&dq=%22Robyn+Gibbes%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid_snPldjoAhUl6nMBHZxuBpI4ChDoAQhCMAQ
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The result was delete. While the accomplishments listed in the article may pass NACTOR, there simply aren't enough reliable sources to verify the information. If new sources are found or become available, this should probably be revisited. – bradv 🍁 00:03, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Robyn Gibbes
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A non notable actor with no reliable sources apparent. Potential COI issues. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 07:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete - google news search also shows no RS. Darylgolden( talk) Ping when replying 11:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
- Strong keep Gibbes is famous in Australia for being on Prisoner. That alone is notable, but her early appearance on Round The Twist is also notable. She was a significant Australian actress! -
Chris.sherlock (
talk) 16:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Chris.sherlock - are there any independent secondary sources that would demonstrate notability? At the moment the only two external links are a fan site and IMDB, neither of which are reliable sources for the purposes of WP:GNG Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 16:46, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Check IMDB - in this case just to see the incredible list of notable shows she appeared on. She made appearances on Blue Heelers, Sea Change, Home and Away, All Saints, Wildside, Water Rats, GP, The Flying Doctors and The Young Doctors, all extremely significant Australian dramas, in a different age of Australia.
- It’s probably more helpful to check Trove to find secondary sources given her age - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22Robyn+Gibbes%22
- What I’m saying is that she satisfies
WP:NACTOR. -
Chris.sherlock (
talk) 16:53, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- I’ve checked Trove and there’s nothing substantial that would indicate notability. A list of credits on IMDB does not indicate notability, and notability can’t be inherited by just appearing in a minor role on a notable programme. Cardiffbear88 ( talk) 19:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a fan site and IMBd are two extremely non-reliable sources. Wikipedia is supposed to be built on reliable sources, not this type of junk. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 16:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
- Weak Keep: I have absolutely no problem keeping this article in terms of WP:NACTOR, because the subject has had significant roles in very famous Australian TV shows, including Round the Twist and Prisoner: Cell Block H. As for WP:GNG, there are clearly some problems, although here are a couple of sources which may help—the first is a BuzzFeed article, which isn't the most reliable of news outlets, but it isn't the worst, either; and the second is an excerpt from a Variety review of a film, Wild Horses (1984), which provides a much briefer comment on the subject:
- → https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliawilling/what-the-cast-of-round-the-twist-looks-like-today
- → https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UXJZAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Robyn+Gibbes%22+-wikipedia&dq=%22Robyn+Gibbes%22+-wikipedia&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid_snPldjoAhUl6nMBHZxuBpI4ChDoAQhCMAQ
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