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The result was no consensus. North America 1000 01:26, 4 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Robert Wynn (soldier)

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Robert Wynn was one of the NCOs in E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment (United States) during World War II; neither his rank ( sergeant) or his highest award ( bronze star) qualify him for notability under WP:SOLDIER. Post-war, he went on with his life, garnering no significant coverage. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:56, 11 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:58, 11 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:58, 11 August 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep. Wynn appears to pass the WP:GNG, with coverage in several reliable sources, so he doesn't need to also pass the subject-specific guideline for soldiers. — GrammarFascist contribs talk 21:33, 19 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, PhantomSteve/ talk| contribs\ 22:51, 19 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - I believe that the spate of books and articles about "Easy Company" has made a great number of its members WP:Notable. That might offend the sensibilities of some of the military history sorts, who love their top officers and their high medal winners but scorn "lesser" figures of social history, but them's breaks. Passes GNG from sources showing in the footnotes. Carrite ( talk) 10:52, 20 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - A soldier does not become notable by being shot in the ass or by falling out of a boat during a river crossing. He does not become notable by the publication of books containing little more than anecdotes. Relating those anecdotes more than once doesn't make them more significant ( WP:LOTSOFSOURCES). There are more pages about non-notable enlisted men than non-notable officers being proposed for deletion because there are more non-notable enlisted men than non-notable officers because there are more enlisted men than officers. Wynn would never have had a page if he hadn't been in a rifle company that was the subject of a book and TV series ( WP:INHERITED).-- Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 16:57, 20 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: So... because there are primary sources (the book and TV series) about him, the secondary sources about him don't count? That isn't how Wikipedia works. — GrammarFascist contribs talk 21:44, 20 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Try again. That's not what I said.-- Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 22:13, 20 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete -- insufficient reliable sources for an NPOV biography. Does not meet WP:SOLDIER and notability is not inherited from the mini series. K.e.coffman ( talk) 04:23, 27 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  13:14, 27 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Agreed that he fails SOLDIER. I think with the book and other extenuating cultural cache surrounding Band of Brothers, he meets GNG. Expansion would be helpful, but I think that is possible given the material out there. South Nashua ( talk) 14:35, 27 August 2017 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. North America 1000 01:26, 4 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Robert Wynn (soldier)

Robert Wynn (soldier) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Robert Wynn was one of the NCOs in E Company, 506th Infantry Regiment (United States) during World War II; neither his rank ( sergeant) or his highest award ( bronze star) qualify him for notability under WP:SOLDIER. Post-war, he went on with his life, garnering no significant coverage. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:56, 11 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:58, 11 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:58, 11 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:58, 11 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Wynn appears to pass the WP:GNG, with coverage in several reliable sources, so he doesn't need to also pass the subject-specific guideline for soldiers. — GrammarFascist contribs talk 21:33, 19 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, PhantomSteve/ talk| contribs\ 22:51, 19 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - I believe that the spate of books and articles about "Easy Company" has made a great number of its members WP:Notable. That might offend the sensibilities of some of the military history sorts, who love their top officers and their high medal winners but scorn "lesser" figures of social history, but them's breaks. Passes GNG from sources showing in the footnotes. Carrite ( talk) 10:52, 20 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - A soldier does not become notable by being shot in the ass or by falling out of a boat during a river crossing. He does not become notable by the publication of books containing little more than anecdotes. Relating those anecdotes more than once doesn't make them more significant ( WP:LOTSOFSOURCES). There are more pages about non-notable enlisted men than non-notable officers being proposed for deletion because there are more non-notable enlisted men than non-notable officers because there are more enlisted men than officers. Wynn would never have had a page if he hadn't been in a rifle company that was the subject of a book and TV series ( WP:INHERITED).-- Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 16:57, 20 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: So... because there are primary sources (the book and TV series) about him, the secondary sources about him don't count? That isn't how Wikipedia works. — GrammarFascist contribs talk 21:44, 20 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Try again. That's not what I said.-- Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 22:13, 20 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete -- insufficient reliable sources for an NPOV biography. Does not meet WP:SOLDIER and notability is not inherited from the mini series. K.e.coffman ( talk) 04:23, 27 August 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  13:14, 27 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Agreed that he fails SOLDIER. I think with the book and other extenuating cultural cache surrounding Band of Brothers, he meets GNG. Expansion would be helpful, but I think that is possible given the material out there. South Nashua ( talk) 14:35, 27 August 2017 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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