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The result was speedy keep. Note that a delete !vote has been struck per being cast by a confirmed sock. As such, this discussion has no outstanding delete !votes, because the nominator has withdrawn. North America 1000 03:23, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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Lacks reliable independent secondary sources to establish notability as required by
WP:GNG. Sources offered are either broken links to nominations for awards the subject did not win or to her own webpages. The subject is the author of several children's books but none have articles (two were deleted) and none appears notable. Subject's sole claim to notability appears to be her marriage to
Rob Pike. Unfortunately, notability is not
WP:INHERITED. Googling turned up nothing useful for either her own name or her pen name.
Msnicki (
talk)
02:08, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Nomination withdrawn. I am satisfied by the sources offered by NinjaRobotPirate. Msnicki ( talk) 00:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
delete - non-notable. DangerDogWest ( talk) 02:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Struck content from confirmed sock above, per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. North America 1000 03:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Keep simply for the listed awards because, yes, although I found nothing else better that is enough to keep this and hopefully it will be improved later. SwisterTwister talk 05:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- She didn't win most of those awards, she was only nominated. She won only one of them, a ComiCon award. That's not exactly a Pulitzer or a Nobel. I don't think there's anything in the guidelines to indicate that's sufficient to establish notability. This article has been around since 2007. How long do you think we should wait for it to be improved? Msnicki ( talk) 06:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - "subject is the author of several children's books" is not quite right. Most of her work is for adults. Here, for example, is a 2001 article in TIME titled "The Most Disturbing Artist You've Never Heard Of". In the comics world she is notable. Unique actually. There is plenty of reliable independent secondary source coverage of her work - book reviews, interviews, gallery exhibitions etc that is not difficult to find with google. The Wikipedia article does nor reflect RS coverage. "How long do you think we should wait for it to be improved?"...as long as it takes because the RS coverage exists and there's no deadline. Sean.hoyland - talk 17:12, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think it's enough to merely claim there are plenty of sources. I think you need to find them. I could not. If you can, I will retract my nomination. But first, you need to find two good sources. Msnicki ( talk) 21:52, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Here's a few more: [1] and [2] from The New York Times; [3] from The A.V. Club; and many more from The Comics Journal, such as [4] and [5]. The article was lacking sources, but you can find many if you look over Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/References. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 23:56, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, I will accept these sources. They tend to discuss her work, not the author herself, but I agree they are sufficient. I am withdrawing my nomination. Msnicki ( talk) 00:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Note that a delete !vote has been struck per being cast by a confirmed sock. As such, this discussion has no outstanding delete !votes, because the nominator has withdrawn. North America 1000 03:23, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Renée French ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Lacks reliable independent secondary sources to establish notability as required by
WP:GNG. Sources offered are either broken links to nominations for awards the subject did not win or to her own webpages. The subject is the author of several children's books but none have articles (two were deleted) and none appears notable. Subject's sole claim to notability appears to be her marriage to
Rob Pike. Unfortunately, notability is not
WP:INHERITED. Googling turned up nothing useful for either her own name or her pen name.
Msnicki (
talk)
02:08, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Nomination withdrawn. I am satisfied by the sources offered by NinjaRobotPirate. Msnicki ( talk) 00:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
delete - non-notable. DangerDogWest ( talk) 02:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Struck content from confirmed sock above, per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. North America 1000 03:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. sst ✈ 04:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. sst ✈ 04:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. sst ✈ 04:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep simply for the listed awards because, yes, although I found nothing else better that is enough to keep this and hopefully it will be improved later. SwisterTwister talk 05:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- She didn't win most of those awards, she was only nominated. She won only one of them, a ComiCon award. That's not exactly a Pulitzer or a Nobel. I don't think there's anything in the guidelines to indicate that's sufficient to establish notability. This article has been around since 2007. How long do you think we should wait for it to be improved? Msnicki ( talk) 06:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - "subject is the author of several children's books" is not quite right. Most of her work is for adults. Here, for example, is a 2001 article in TIME titled "The Most Disturbing Artist You've Never Heard Of". In the comics world she is notable. Unique actually. There is plenty of reliable independent secondary source coverage of her work - book reviews, interviews, gallery exhibitions etc that is not difficult to find with google. The Wikipedia article does nor reflect RS coverage. "How long do you think we should wait for it to be improved?"...as long as it takes because the RS coverage exists and there's no deadline. Sean.hoyland - talk 17:12, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think it's enough to merely claim there are plenty of sources. I think you need to find them. I could not. If you can, I will retract my nomination. But first, you need to find two good sources. Msnicki ( talk) 21:52, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Here's a few more: [1] and [2] from The New York Times; [3] from The A.V. Club; and many more from The Comics Journal, such as [4] and [5]. The article was lacking sources, but you can find many if you look over Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/References. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 23:56, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, I will accept these sources. They tend to discuss her work, not the author herself, but I agree they are sufficient. I am withdrawing my nomination. Msnicki ( talk) 00:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 12:46, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
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