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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 17:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Ray Mueller (politician)

Ray Mueller (politician) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP of a political figure, not properly referenced as passing WP:NPOL. The notability claim here is as a city and county councillor, which is not a level of office that guarantees "inherent" notability to every holder of it -- politicians at the local levels of government have to pass NPOL #2, where the notability test hinges on writing and sourcing a substantive article about their political impact (specific things they did, specific projects they spearheaded, specific effects their work had on the development of the city/county, etc.) rather than just verifying that they exist.
But as written, this effectively just states that he exists and verifies his local election results, while containing absolutely none of the type of content that is actually required to establish the notability of a local councillor, and is referenced to a mix of primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and community hyperlocals within the county being cited only to verify that he campaigned for and/or won election to the job rather than analyzing his work in the job.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt the article from having to be written and sourced more substantially than this. Bearcat ( talk) 15:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per WP:POLITICIAN - Vapid credentials, in the claim that he's won some low-level elections, but I can't find anything in the way of accomplishments. For instance ( https://www smcgov.org/district-3), "We are working every day to improve the quality of life for all San Mateo Residents". Like what? What is he doing? Article was created by an IP's only contribution to Wikipedia. — Maile ( talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Delete per the nomination and editor comments above. Minor official who fails WP:NPOL guidelines. Go4thProsper ( talk) 13:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete his local office is not inherently notable and he doesn't seem to have any other claim to notability. BottleOfChocolateMilk ( talk) 20:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Neither the office nor the office holder are notable. Go4thProsper ( talk) 12:00, 19 June 2024 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 17:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC) reply

Ray Mueller (politician)

Ray Mueller (politician) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

WP:BLP of a political figure, not properly referenced as passing WP:NPOL. The notability claim here is as a city and county councillor, which is not a level of office that guarantees "inherent" notability to every holder of it -- politicians at the local levels of government have to pass NPOL #2, where the notability test hinges on writing and sourcing a substantive article about their political impact (specific things they did, specific projects they spearheaded, specific effects their work had on the development of the city/county, etc.) rather than just verifying that they exist.
But as written, this effectively just states that he exists and verifies his local election results, while containing absolutely none of the type of content that is actually required to establish the notability of a local councillor, and is referenced to a mix of primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and community hyperlocals within the county being cited only to verify that he campaigned for and/or won election to the job rather than analyzing his work in the job.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt the article from having to be written and sourced more substantially than this. Bearcat ( talk) 15:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per WP:POLITICIAN - Vapid credentials, in the claim that he's won some low-level elections, but I can't find anything in the way of accomplishments. For instance ( https://www smcgov.org/district-3), "We are working every day to improve the quality of life for all San Mateo Residents". Like what? What is he doing? Article was created by an IP's only contribution to Wikipedia. — Maile ( talk) 19:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Delete per the nomination and editor comments above. Minor official who fails WP:NPOL guidelines. Go4thProsper ( talk) 13:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete his local office is not inherently notable and he doesn't seem to have any other claim to notability. BottleOfChocolateMilk ( talk) 20:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Neither the office nor the office holder are notable. Go4thProsper ( talk) 12:00, 19 June 2024 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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