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The result was Speedy Keep withdrawn by nominator ( non-admin closure). Harsh (talk) 13:43, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Ratchell
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Not notable band per
WP:BAND. The Morning Record reference provided is a newspaper source and is an independent and reliable one, but just mentions about the band and is trivial. The other source on Discogs.com is perhaps not reliable.
Harsh
(talk) 12:26, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Withdrawn by nominator - As per the points raised by User:Gongshow. Harsh (talk) 13:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per point #2 of WP:BAND as, according to Allmusic ( [1]) the band placed an album on the Billboard 200 chart. Also meets #5 (two albums on Decca Records and #6 ( Larry Byrom and Chris Couchois). Article could use improvement but the notability standard is met. - Dravecky ( talk) 14:38, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
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WP:BAND-#5 says-two albums on a major record label i.e, Decca Records in this case. Their first album Ratchell 1 was not released under Decca record as per the the source
[2]
- 6 says- The band must contain two or more independently notable musicians.
Chris Couchois is already nominated AfD.
- 2 says- The band has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. The song in Billboard 200 list in 1972. I can't verify it in Billboard 1972 archives. Harsh (talk) 16:44, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. These two sources, in addition to Allmusic, show that the group had a charting album. These sources show that both Ratchell and Ratchell II were released on Decca. As for coverage, I'm not seeing much, but there's this reference from the article, this piece from the Evening Independent, plus a pair of brief Billboard write-ups. I have incorporated these sources into the article. For an admittedly obscure band from over 40 years ago, there appears to be sufficient material for an article. Gongshow talk 05:41, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
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The result was Speedy Keep withdrawn by nominator ( non-admin closure). Harsh (talk) 13:43, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Ratchell
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Not notable band per
WP:BAND. The Morning Record reference provided is a newspaper source and is an independent and reliable one, but just mentions about the band and is trivial. The other source on Discogs.com is perhaps not reliable.
Harsh
(talk) 12:26, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Withdrawn by nominator - As per the points raised by User:Gongshow. Harsh (talk) 13:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per point #2 of WP:BAND as, according to Allmusic ( [1]) the band placed an album on the Billboard 200 chart. Also meets #5 (two albums on Decca Records and #6 ( Larry Byrom and Chris Couchois). Article could use improvement but the notability standard is met. - Dravecky ( talk) 14:38, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:13, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment
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WP:BAND-#5 says-two albums on a major record label i.e, Decca Records in this case. Their first album Ratchell 1 was not released under Decca record as per the the source
[2]
- 6 says- The band must contain two or more independently notable musicians.
Chris Couchois is already nominated AfD.
- 2 says- The band has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. The song in Billboard 200 list in 1972. I can't verify it in Billboard 1972 archives. Harsh (talk) 16:44, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. These two sources, in addition to Allmusic, show that the group had a charting album. These sources show that both Ratchell and Ratchell II were released on Decca. As for coverage, I'm not seeing much, but there's this reference from the article, this piece from the Evening Independent, plus a pair of brief Billboard write-ups. I have incorporated these sources into the article. For an admittedly obscure band from over 40 years ago, there appears to be sufficient material for an article. Gongshow talk 05:41, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
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