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The result was Keep ( Non-Admin Closure). Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 06:13, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ramón Ramírez (Panamanian pitcher) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
fails WP:GNG Joeykai ( talk) 23:13, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies BASE/N by virtue of having played in the 2006 World Baseball Classic. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:19, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:21, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Satisfies BASE/N. This wave of deletionism is really annoying. Alex ( talk) 23:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- GNG supercedes BASE/N. He clearly isn't notable.
Joeykai (
talk)
00:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why even have BASE/N if people aren't going to follow it? Alex ( talk) 01:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, passes BASE/N. Wizardman 03:07, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Fails GNG. Pitching one inning in a tournament in which Panama was quickly eliminated hardly seems notable. - Bbny-wiki-editor ( talk) 05:22, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Playing in the WBC is an automatic notable.-- Yankees10 05:58, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment BASE/N doesn't trump GNG. This guy pitched one inning in the 2006 WBC. If there isn't substantial coverage of him, the page should be deleted. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
07:34, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- He also played in two Baseball World Cups and a Pan American Games. That gives him four major international tournaments. There are two other Ramon Ramirez that were baseball pitchers as well as a couple that were minor league infielders so separating them on google searches is a bit difficult. Spanneraol ( talk) 12:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: I don't suppose the Delete voters have troubled themselves to attempt to find Panamanian news sources? As it happens, there are a bunch of them on La Prensa alone: [1] Nha Trang Allons! 14:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, there are a bunch of routine stories about a local athlete. GNG requires a lot more than that. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
21:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Haven't read them, have you? Nha Trang
Allons!
15:44, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, I read them. They're the standard type of stories that any decent athlete receives in his home city. - Bbny-wiki-editor ( talk) 22:16, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Haven't read them, have you? Nha Trang
Allons!
15:44, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, there are a bunch of routine stories about a local athlete. GNG requires a lot more than that. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
21:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Panama-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per NukeThePukes (great name) and BASE/N. With baseball no longer an Olympic event (BS), the WBC should be sacrosanct. And Bbny, not "any decent athlete" gets coverage of that nature. – Muboshgu ( talk) 11:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- In any given year, there are over 7,000 players in MLB and MiLB, and this guy was never one of them. He's a local "decent athlete" who pitched one inning for a low-level WBC team, and nothing more. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
19:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- He also played in two Baseball World Cups and a Pan American Games as I noted above.
Spanneraol (
talk)
20:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- That's nice, but he's still nothing more than a decent local athlete. He played in four allegedly significant tournaments but didn't impress MLB teams to the point of cracking the ranks of the 7,000 players in MLB and MiLB. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
21:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why does Bbny get so angry and hostile when things don't go his way?
Alex (
talk)
02:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Beats me, but he's not the first one from the baseball wikiproject who goes into a tizzy at the notion that ANYone other than a Major! League! Ballplayer! could meet notability standards. Me, my Spanish is pretty good, and I'm satisfied that those Panamanian sources are good. Nha Trang Allons! 16:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- I see Alex is as good at reading anger as he is at comprehending GNG. Which is, of course, not very good at all. As for Nha Trang, I never said the sources weren't good. I said it was local coverage that didn't meet GNG. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
20:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- In your opinion. Spanneraol ( talk) 20:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why does Bbny get so angry and hostile when things don't go his way?
Alex (
talk)
02:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- That's nice, but he's still nothing more than a decent local athlete. He played in four allegedly significant tournaments but didn't impress MLB teams to the point of cracking the ranks of the 7,000 players in MLB and MiLB. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
21:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- He also played in two Baseball World Cups and a Pan American Games as I noted above.
Spanneraol (
talk)
20:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- In any given year, there are over 7,000 players in MLB and MiLB, and this guy was never one of them. He's a local "decent athlete" who pitched one inning for a low-level WBC team, and nothing more. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
19:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - per WP:BASE/N. Just because sources are primarily from Panama doesn't make him non-notable. Rlendog ( talk) 23:29, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep ( Non-Admin Closure). Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 06:13, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- Ramón Ramírez (Panamanian pitcher) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
fails WP:GNG Joeykai ( talk) 23:13, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies BASE/N by virtue of having played in the 2006 World Baseball Classic. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:19, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:21, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Satisfies BASE/N. This wave of deletionism is really annoying. Alex ( talk) 23:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- GNG supercedes BASE/N. He clearly isn't notable.
Joeykai (
talk)
00:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why even have BASE/N if people aren't going to follow it? Alex ( talk) 01:25, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, passes BASE/N. Wizardman 03:07, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Fails GNG. Pitching one inning in a tournament in which Panama was quickly eliminated hardly seems notable. - Bbny-wiki-editor ( talk) 05:22, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Playing in the WBC is an automatic notable.-- Yankees10 05:58, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment BASE/N doesn't trump GNG. This guy pitched one inning in the 2006 WBC. If there isn't substantial coverage of him, the page should be deleted. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
07:34, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- He also played in two Baseball World Cups and a Pan American Games. That gives him four major international tournaments. There are two other Ramon Ramirez that were baseball pitchers as well as a couple that were minor league infielders so separating them on google searches is a bit difficult. Spanneraol ( talk) 12:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep: I don't suppose the Delete voters have troubled themselves to attempt to find Panamanian news sources? As it happens, there are a bunch of them on La Prensa alone: [1] Nha Trang Allons! 14:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, there are a bunch of routine stories about a local athlete. GNG requires a lot more than that. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
21:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Haven't read them, have you? Nha Trang
Allons!
15:44, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, I read them. They're the standard type of stories that any decent athlete receives in his home city. - Bbny-wiki-editor ( talk) 22:16, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Haven't read them, have you? Nha Trang
Allons!
15:44, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, there are a bunch of routine stories about a local athlete. GNG requires a lot more than that. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
21:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Panama-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 19:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per NukeThePukes (great name) and BASE/N. With baseball no longer an Olympic event (BS), the WBC should be sacrosanct. And Bbny, not "any decent athlete" gets coverage of that nature. – Muboshgu ( talk) 11:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- In any given year, there are over 7,000 players in MLB and MiLB, and this guy was never one of them. He's a local "decent athlete" who pitched one inning for a low-level WBC team, and nothing more. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
19:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- He also played in two Baseball World Cups and a Pan American Games as I noted above.
Spanneraol (
talk)
20:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- That's nice, but he's still nothing more than a decent local athlete. He played in four allegedly significant tournaments but didn't impress MLB teams to the point of cracking the ranks of the 7,000 players in MLB and MiLB. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
21:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why does Bbny get so angry and hostile when things don't go his way?
Alex (
talk)
02:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Beats me, but he's not the first one from the baseball wikiproject who goes into a tizzy at the notion that ANYone other than a Major! League! Ballplayer! could meet notability standards. Me, my Spanish is pretty good, and I'm satisfied that those Panamanian sources are good. Nha Trang Allons! 16:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- I see Alex is as good at reading anger as he is at comprehending GNG. Which is, of course, not very good at all. As for Nha Trang, I never said the sources weren't good. I said it was local coverage that didn't meet GNG. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
20:19, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- In your opinion. Spanneraol ( talk) 20:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Why does Bbny get so angry and hostile when things don't go his way?
Alex (
talk)
02:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- That's nice, but he's still nothing more than a decent local athlete. He played in four allegedly significant tournaments but didn't impress MLB teams to the point of cracking the ranks of the 7,000 players in MLB and MiLB. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
21:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- He also played in two Baseball World Cups and a Pan American Games as I noted above.
Spanneraol (
talk)
20:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- In any given year, there are over 7,000 players in MLB and MiLB, and this guy was never one of them. He's a local "decent athlete" who pitched one inning for a low-level WBC team, and nothing more. -
Bbny-wiki-editor (
talk)
19:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - per WP:BASE/N. Just because sources are primarily from Panama doesn't make him non-notable. Rlendog ( talk) 23:29, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.