The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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There seems to be a lack of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Most of the sources in the article are from the subject of the article and the article was almost entirely written by
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/R.o.t (note the initials).
Searching JSTOR for "Raimo Olavi Toivonen" yields 0 results, searching for "Raimo Toivonen" yields 1 result. The one main space article that links to this is
Aatto Sonninen which was written by the same blocked sockpuppeting account. Searching Google Scholar does find some papers and references to their papers, but it doesn't seem significant compared to any random researcher. Also see
User_talk:R.o.t/Archives/2020/November.
Daniel Quinlan (
talk)
22:23, 6 August 2023 (UTC)reply
IP sock of indef blocked user R.o.t making trouble
Archiving is not illegal, because no one profits from it. In fact, it costs money to maintain. Archive.org also provides methods for removing pages and blocking crawlers, which you apparently have chosen not to use. This is not Wikipedia's problem and is not a valid deletion reason.
Skyerise (
talk)
10:52, 9 August 2023 (UTC)reply
From 1996 to 2023, the ISA website has had all bot blocks, but despite that, a few days ago the entire ISA website was copied bit by bit to the Internet Archive. I am now in negotiations to remove all copies of the 1996-2023 ISA site from 1996-2023 and to ensure that the Internet Archive does not copy from my ISA site. The Internet Archive already has several gigabytes of material under my copyright from 1996-2023. If for some reason the removal and blocking is not successful, the Finnish government will block the aforementioned robots from accessing .fi addresses.
2001:999:588:51DD:5970:C3EE:8554:2EA7 (
talk)
12:32, 9 August 2023 (UTC)reply
See, I don't believe you actually are Raimo Olavi Toivonen. I think you are someone who dislikes him and is trying to embarrass him by impersonating him and making him out to be a crotchety old troll. Anyone can claim to be anyone on the Internet. I could be the President of Finland, for all you know.
Skyerise (
talk)
12:41, 9 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
There seems to be a lack of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Most of the sources in the article are from the subject of the article and the article was almost entirely written by
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/R.o.t (note the initials).
Searching JSTOR for "Raimo Olavi Toivonen" yields 0 results, searching for "Raimo Toivonen" yields 1 result. The one main space article that links to this is
Aatto Sonninen which was written by the same blocked sockpuppeting account. Searching Google Scholar does find some papers and references to their papers, but it doesn't seem significant compared to any random researcher. Also see
User_talk:R.o.t/Archives/2020/November.
Daniel Quinlan (
talk)
22:23, 6 August 2023 (UTC)reply
IP sock of indef blocked user R.o.t making trouble
Archiving is not illegal, because no one profits from it. In fact, it costs money to maintain. Archive.org also provides methods for removing pages and blocking crawlers, which you apparently have chosen not to use. This is not Wikipedia's problem and is not a valid deletion reason.
Skyerise (
talk)
10:52, 9 August 2023 (UTC)reply
From 1996 to 2023, the ISA website has had all bot blocks, but despite that, a few days ago the entire ISA website was copied bit by bit to the Internet Archive. I am now in negotiations to remove all copies of the 1996-2023 ISA site from 1996-2023 and to ensure that the Internet Archive does not copy from my ISA site. The Internet Archive already has several gigabytes of material under my copyright from 1996-2023. If for some reason the removal and blocking is not successful, the Finnish government will block the aforementioned robots from accessing .fi addresses.
2001:999:588:51DD:5970:C3EE:8554:2EA7 (
talk)
12:32, 9 August 2023 (UTC)reply
See, I don't believe you actually are Raimo Olavi Toivonen. I think you are someone who dislikes him and is trying to embarrass him by impersonating him and making him out to be a crotchety old troll. Anyone can claim to be anyone on the Internet. I could be the President of Finland, for all you know.
Skyerise (
talk)
12:41, 9 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.