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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis ( talk) 22:50, 18 July 2015 (UTC) reply

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This person fails to meet the notability criterion to warrant a wikipedia article. Like other extremely minor politicians in Tower Hamlets who have had excessively long Wikipedia articles which deviate far from any perceived basis for their notability - being a politician. Instead they contain all sorts of fawning material which has the purpose of aggrandizing them and potentially helping their political careers; for example information about the subject taking A Levels and the vocation of their husband and the names of their children and companies they have set up which objectively speaking are unheard of and do not add to the subjects notability. The Wikipedia:Notability (people) page provides clarification about threshold when a local politician (in this case a ward councillor elected by about 1000 people) becomes notable is that the person has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists. In the instance of this councillor (like other councillors in Tower Hamlets such as Rania Khan and Shiria Khatun whose lengthy, biographical articles have also been found to fall short of the notability criterion and following due consideration were deleted) she has NOT received "significant" press coverage and what she has received has rarely been in any depth. The publications where she has been mentioned have all been in tiny local publications receiving almost no recognition at all in the national press. Two mentions in the East London Advertiser is not significant press coverage, nor is one article in the 'Socialist Worker' which is not a proper newspaper, it is a promotional leaflet published by the Socialist Workers Party and, given Rabina Khan's known affiliation with that political party (when she was a member of Respect of which the SWP was/is an affiliated and dominant section in that party at the time of her membership, and probably since) so it cannot be said to have been independent. Also if you look at the Common Outcomes of such deletion debates "losing candidates for office below the national level are generally deleted unless previous notability can be demonstrated". Some people in Tower Hamlets may like her very much but according to the relevant Wiki policy she is not notable; she has not passed the threshold for "significant press coverage" the independent coverage she has received has been extremely brief and almost wholly restricted to one local newspaper and she did not have any previous notability prior to her attempt at becoming mayor. This is not "significant" and the publications are not "major". Rabina Khan fails the criteria for notability and this article which is misused as a political aggrandizing tool should be deleted. Aetheling1125 21:40, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC) reply
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Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 12:24, 5 July 2015 (UTC) reply
:* Delete, The article has many secondary sources but that does not mean the subject is NOTABLE because the basis for her having an article is her supposed notability for being a POLITICIAN and Wikipedia has particular policies on this, not the generic one you cite. She has not received "significant press coverage" that has been "in depth" in "multiple news feature articles by journalists". She has not. Two mentions in the East London Advertiser is not significant press coverage, nor is one article in the 'Socialist Worker' which is not a proper newspaper, it is a promotional leaflet published by the Socialist Workers Party and, given Rabina Khan's known affiliation with that political party (when she was a member of Respect of which the SWP was an affiliated and dominant section in that party at the time of her membership, and probably since) it cannot be said to be independent of her - so this article - which is the only one that can reasonably be said to be "in depth" - would not count. Also if you look at the Common Outcomes of such deletion debates "losing candidates for office below the national level are generally deleted unless previous notability can be demonstrated". Some people in Tower Hamlets may like her very much but according to the relevant Wiki policy she is not notable; she has not passed the threshold for "significant press coverage" the independent coverage she has received has been extremely brief and almost wholly restricted to one local newspaper and she did not have any previous notability prior to her attempt at becoming mayor. I recommend you read the policy on the matter! Aetheling1125 08:27, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
@ Aetheling1125: I see that you haven't made a recommendation in very many AfD discussions before, and may not be familiar with the relevant Wikietiquette. Your nomination is understood as your recommendation. Engaging in discussion is encouraged, but you are asked not to repeat your recommendation as a bold bullet item (see WP:DISCUSSAFD), so please strike your "delete" above. Thanks, Worldbruce ( talk) 23:30, 10 July 2015 (UTC) reply
Done, although I have amended my initial rationale to include the supplementary points I made regarding independence of Socialist Worker. 2.220.0.139 ( talk) 08:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis ( talk) 22:50, 18 July 2015 (UTC) reply

Rabina Khan (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This person fails to meet the notability criterion to warrant a wikipedia article. Like other extremely minor politicians in Tower Hamlets who have had excessively long Wikipedia articles which deviate far from any perceived basis for their notability - being a politician. Instead they contain all sorts of fawning material which has the purpose of aggrandizing them and potentially helping their political careers; for example information about the subject taking A Levels and the vocation of their husband and the names of their children and companies they have set up which objectively speaking are unheard of and do not add to the subjects notability. The Wikipedia:Notability (people) page provides clarification about threshold when a local politician (in this case a ward councillor elected by about 1000 people) becomes notable is that the person has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists. In the instance of this councillor (like other councillors in Tower Hamlets such as Rania Khan and Shiria Khatun whose lengthy, biographical articles have also been found to fall short of the notability criterion and following due consideration were deleted) she has NOT received "significant" press coverage and what she has received has rarely been in any depth. The publications where she has been mentioned have all been in tiny local publications receiving almost no recognition at all in the national press. Two mentions in the East London Advertiser is not significant press coverage, nor is one article in the 'Socialist Worker' which is not a proper newspaper, it is a promotional leaflet published by the Socialist Workers Party and, given Rabina Khan's known affiliation with that political party (when she was a member of Respect of which the SWP was/is an affiliated and dominant section in that party at the time of her membership, and probably since) so it cannot be said to have been independent. Also if you look at the Common Outcomes of such deletion debates "losing candidates for office below the national level are generally deleted unless previous notability can be demonstrated". Some people in Tower Hamlets may like her very much but according to the relevant Wiki policy she is not notable; she has not passed the threshold for "significant press coverage" the independent coverage she has received has been extremely brief and almost wholly restricted to one local newspaper and she did not have any previous notability prior to her attempt at becoming mayor. This is not "significant" and the publications are not "major". Rabina Khan fails the criteria for notability and this article which is misused as a political aggrandizing tool should be deleted. Aetheling1125 21:40, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 12:24, 5 July 2015 (UTC) reply
:* Delete, The article has many secondary sources but that does not mean the subject is NOTABLE because the basis for her having an article is her supposed notability for being a POLITICIAN and Wikipedia has particular policies on this, not the generic one you cite. She has not received "significant press coverage" that has been "in depth" in "multiple news feature articles by journalists". She has not. Two mentions in the East London Advertiser is not significant press coverage, nor is one article in the 'Socialist Worker' which is not a proper newspaper, it is a promotional leaflet published by the Socialist Workers Party and, given Rabina Khan's known affiliation with that political party (when she was a member of Respect of which the SWP was an affiliated and dominant section in that party at the time of her membership, and probably since) it cannot be said to be independent of her - so this article - which is the only one that can reasonably be said to be "in depth" - would not count. Also if you look at the Common Outcomes of such deletion debates "losing candidates for office below the national level are generally deleted unless previous notability can be demonstrated". Some people in Tower Hamlets may like her very much but according to the relevant Wiki policy she is not notable; she has not passed the threshold for "significant press coverage" the independent coverage she has received has been extremely brief and almost wholly restricted to one local newspaper and she did not have any previous notability prior to her attempt at becoming mayor. I recommend you read the policy on the matter! Aetheling1125 08:27, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
@ Aetheling1125: I see that you haven't made a recommendation in very many AfD discussions before, and may not be familiar with the relevant Wikietiquette. Your nomination is understood as your recommendation. Engaging in discussion is encouraged, but you are asked not to repeat your recommendation as a bold bullet item (see WP:DISCUSSAFD), so please strike your "delete" above. Thanks, Worldbruce ( talk) 23:30, 10 July 2015 (UTC) reply
Done, although I have amended my initial rationale to include the supplementary points I made regarding independence of Socialist Worker. 2.220.0.139 ( talk) 08:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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