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The result was delete. The argument to keep based on WP:NPOL is not unreasonable, but this is not a clear-cut application of that guideline, and as such it cannot override the other concerns, or indeed the argument that this individual does not meet NPOL. Vanamonde ( Talk) 12:38, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Qadhi Saeed Almurooshid
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non-notable/ Based on a single press release, None of the positions imply notability, and no reason to think any other ones would be substantial 3rd party reliable published sources, not press releases or blogs or postings or mere notices DGG ( talk ) 02:37, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 ( talk) 03:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Weak keep: Assessing using
WP:NPOL, I think his position as an Executive Councilor for the
Emirate of Dubai may meet NPOL. Despite having the term "executive" in its title, the Executive Council seems like a legislative body (
its Arabic Wikipedia entry, note the line "The Executive Council proposes and approves government policies and laws. It also supervises the implementation of local and federal laws, the establishment of government agencies, and the follow-up of their performance."). If I'm interpreting that correctly to mean that it's a legislative body, then the subject passes
WP:NPOL. However, I'm !voting with weak keep because I may be incorrect with that assertion.
Curbon7 (
talk)
04:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- If I'm wrong about that, he would likely fail WP:NPOL, as I don't believe an executive councilor would otherwise count as a statewide office. Curbon7 ( talk) 04:09, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Nothing indicates this fellow is an elected politician. It appears he is a successful businessman appointed to an executive council. Nothing here meets GNG. --
Whiteguru (
talk)
08:49, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Whiteguru, NPOL does not specify that a politician necessarily has to be elected, merely that they have held a qualifying office. Curbon7 ( talk) 09:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - clearly a prominent government member, director general of the Dubai Health Authority among other things. Googling قاضي المروشد gives plenty results. -- Soman ( talk) 13:12, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. DGG. Curbon7's logic can be considered because UAE is not a democratic country. - Hatchens ( talk) 14:25, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- even were it a democratic country, none of the positions he held would usually be elected positions. They're just administrative appointments. DGG ( talk ) 06:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - Prior to its nomination for deletion, this article was arguably vandalised, with an edit on 29 March removing 8/9ths of the content and all but one of its references and citations. The individual is clearly a public figure with a quite publicly documented track record of service in positions of authority within government (elected or not). Iskandar_323 ( talk) 7:30, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- The material removed was a large mass of blatant promotionalism, with extensive name dropping of every possible dignitary, and incredible claims to have had magnificent success in everything he ever worked on. It's conceivable there may be a few valid references in among this, but the material was removed by a reliable and experienced editor, and was the only possible way to rescue what would have otherwise been a clear G11 DGG ( talk ) 21:14, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, as I am not convinced by the "keep" rationales offered and it seems this person has not held any positions of noteworthiness. Bungle ( talk • contribs) 18:04, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ambrosiawater ( talk) 06:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ambrosiawater ( talk) 06:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep former member of Dubai's version of the Politburo, albeit less democratic. Passes NPOL. Regards, -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 12:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:BASIC with one press release as the only source. I couldn't find any reliable coverage. Heartmusic678 ( talk) 15:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment The previously linked sources for this page largely appear to have broken or expired. However, it is not hard to find live sources for this page, most notably for the individual's role at the Dubai Health Authority, with the caveat that the correct name spelling appears to be "Qadhi Saeed Al Murooshid", with a space between "Al" and "Murooshid". The page should possibly be moved to reflect this. — Iskandar 323 ( talk) 18:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - keep arguments don't really convince me. As far as I can see from searching, there appears to be only few useful resources. So subject's notability is quite questionable to me.-- Melaleuca alternifolia | talk 21:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, as per Whiteguru. MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:27, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. The argument to keep based on WP:NPOL is not unreasonable, but this is not a clear-cut application of that guideline, and as such it cannot override the other concerns, or indeed the argument that this individual does not meet NPOL. Vanamonde ( Talk) 12:38, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Qadhi Saeed Almurooshid
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non-notable/ Based on a single press release, None of the positions imply notability, and no reason to think any other ones would be substantial 3rd party reliable published sources, not press releases or blogs or postings or mere notices DGG ( talk ) 02:37, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 ( talk) 03:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 ( talk) 03:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 ( talk) 03:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Weak keep: Assessing using
WP:NPOL, I think his position as an Executive Councilor for the
Emirate of Dubai may meet NPOL. Despite having the term "executive" in its title, the Executive Council seems like a legislative body (
its Arabic Wikipedia entry, note the line "The Executive Council proposes and approves government policies and laws. It also supervises the implementation of local and federal laws, the establishment of government agencies, and the follow-up of their performance."). If I'm interpreting that correctly to mean that it's a legislative body, then the subject passes
WP:NPOL. However, I'm !voting with weak keep because I may be incorrect with that assertion.
Curbon7 (
talk)
04:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- If I'm wrong about that, he would likely fail WP:NPOL, as I don't believe an executive councilor would otherwise count as a statewide office. Curbon7 ( talk) 04:09, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Nothing indicates this fellow is an elected politician. It appears he is a successful businessman appointed to an executive council. Nothing here meets GNG. --
Whiteguru (
talk)
08:49, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Whiteguru, NPOL does not specify that a politician necessarily has to be elected, merely that they have held a qualifying office. Curbon7 ( talk) 09:20, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - clearly a prominent government member, director general of the Dubai Health Authority among other things. Googling قاضي المروشد gives plenty results. -- Soman ( talk) 13:12, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. DGG. Curbon7's logic can be considered because UAE is not a democratic country. - Hatchens ( talk) 14:25, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- even were it a democratic country, none of the positions he held would usually be elected positions. They're just administrative appointments. DGG ( talk ) 06:17, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - Prior to its nomination for deletion, this article was arguably vandalised, with an edit on 29 March removing 8/9ths of the content and all but one of its references and citations. The individual is clearly a public figure with a quite publicly documented track record of service in positions of authority within government (elected or not). Iskandar_323 ( talk) 7:30, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- The material removed was a large mass of blatant promotionalism, with extensive name dropping of every possible dignitary, and incredible claims to have had magnificent success in everything he ever worked on. It's conceivable there may be a few valid references in among this, but the material was removed by a reliable and experienced editor, and was the only possible way to rescue what would have otherwise been a clear G11 DGG ( talk ) 21:14, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, as I am not convinced by the "keep" rationales offered and it seems this person has not held any positions of noteworthiness. Bungle ( talk • contribs) 18:04, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ambrosiawater ( talk) 06:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ambrosiawater ( talk) 06:00, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep former member of Dubai's version of the Politburo, albeit less democratic. Passes NPOL. Regards, -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 12:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:BASIC with one press release as the only source. I couldn't find any reliable coverage. Heartmusic678 ( talk) 15:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment The previously linked sources for this page largely appear to have broken or expired. However, it is not hard to find live sources for this page, most notably for the individual's role at the Dubai Health Authority, with the caveat that the correct name spelling appears to be "Qadhi Saeed Al Murooshid", with a space between "Al" and "Murooshid". The page should possibly be moved to reflect this. — Iskandar 323 ( talk) 18:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - keep arguments don't really convince me. As far as I can see from searching, there appears to be only few useful resources. So subject's notability is quite questionable to me.-- Melaleuca alternifolia | talk 21:04, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Delete, as per Whiteguru. MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:27, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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