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The result was delete. Mark Arsten ( talk) 02:03, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Princess Şehime
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Could find no sources that indicate this person existed. NeilN talk to me 18:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
She existed look here under Cemile Sultans descendant:
https://archive.org/stream/GenealogyOfTheImperialOttomanFamily2005#page/n13/mode/2up — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nalanidil ( talk • contribs) 22:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Not a reliable source: "This genealogical study is the first publication of our family association, HANEDAN..." -- NeilN talk to me 22:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
*Keep and tag for sourcing. Her son, Sen Sahir Silan, wrote a memoir, I Do Not Regret, Vantage (2005). Moreover that striking house on the Bosporus exists, it is always called by her name. She's real. And notable (for her association with that landmark house - if nothing else). Just needs sourcing.
User:NeilN try searching on google books (look at this:
[1] ; bountiful sources available.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 14:39, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- My error, I conflated her with her grandmother. I do admire that house, every time I go past. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 14:43, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Whoa Not my error at all. Somehow, the two separate AFDs, grandmother and grandaughter, are linked to this single discussion. When they are untangled, my comment is re: Cemile Sultan, an AFD that Nom may want to withdraw after reading it. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 14:51, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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Shawn in Montreal (
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- E.M.Gregory, I don't know what the editor is thinking, but their actions are annoying. I have removed the invalid AFD notice. -- NeilN talk to me 17:45, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete -- She strike me as being completely NN, except that she was an Ottoman princess. The content of the article is merely a list of NN descendants. There may well be a place for such a list on a genealogical website, but it does not belong in WP: utterly non-encyclopaedic. Peterkingiron ( talk) 19:12, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk 20:19, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Delete: My searches in Turkish yielded no results and the only existing source appears to be that archived genealogy. Also I'm not sure whether this was brought up or not, but a duplicate article, Şehime, was created after Princess Şehime's AfD nomination. Myxomatosis57 ( talk) 22:59, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten ( talk) 02:03, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Princess Şehime
- Princess Şehime ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Could find no sources that indicate this person existed. NeilN talk to me 18:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
She existed look here under Cemile Sultans descendant:
https://archive.org/stream/GenealogyOfTheImperialOttomanFamily2005#page/n13/mode/2up — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nalanidil ( talk • contribs) 22:08, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
- Not a reliable source: "This genealogical study is the first publication of our family association, HANEDAN..." -- NeilN talk to me 22:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
*Keep and tag for sourcing. Her son, Sen Sahir Silan, wrote a memoir, I Do Not Regret, Vantage (2005). Moreover that striking house on the Bosporus exists, it is always called by her name. She's real. And notable (for her association with that landmark house - if nothing else). Just needs sourcing.
User:NeilN try searching on google books (look at this:
[1] ; bountiful sources available.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 14:39, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- My error, I conflated her with her grandmother. I do admire that house, every time I go past. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 14:43, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- Whoa Not my error at all. Somehow, the two separate AFDs, grandmother and grandaughter, are linked to this single discussion. When they are untangled, my comment is re: Cemile Sultan, an AFD that Nom may want to withdraw after reading it. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 14:51, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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Shawn in Montreal (
talk) 17:31, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
- E.M.Gregory, I don't know what the editor is thinking, but their actions are annoying. I have removed the invalid AFD notice. -- NeilN talk to me 17:45, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk 19:46, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete -- She strike me as being completely NN, except that she was an Ottoman princess. The content of the article is merely a list of NN descendants. There may well be a place for such a list on a genealogical website, but it does not belong in WP: utterly non-encyclopaedic. Peterkingiron ( talk) 19:12, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk 20:19, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- Delete: My searches in Turkish yielded no results and the only existing source appears to be that archived genealogy. Also I'm not sure whether this was brought up or not, but a duplicate article, Şehime, was created after Princess Şehime's AfD nomination. Myxomatosis57 ( talk) 22:59, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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