The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
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A user wants to get rid of this page and redirect it to page
Poser, claiming "does not meet
WP:GNG", but often one man's trivia is another man's important matter, and very many people use
Poser, and a history of its major posable characters would be useful to them. This information is not currently in page
Poser. Best discuss it here.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 16:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Speedy close to either delete or redirect to
Poser. No reliable sources at all.
GDallimore (
Talk) 16:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Many people who have used Poser down the years will provide plenty of reliable sources.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 16:55, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment: Is the concept notable, in the same way that
Resource fork or
JAR (file format) is notable, it should stay. If it's not, it shouldn't. If a cottage industry has in fact developed,[citation needed] then it is probably notable and reliable, independent references should exist. I'm tempted to !vote as "weak keep, without prejudice for re-nomination after 30 days" to give editors more time to improve this article, then use the lack of improvement after 30 days as evidence of it being less notable than it appears. But I'll just keep this as a "comment" for now.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 19:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
How long do you want to wait, exactly? The article existed for at least 2 years in its current form before I merged it to Poser in 2010. No supporting sources have been added to either article in the last 4 years either.
GDallimore (
Talk) 20:17, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Now that attention has been drawn to the issue, a month is plenty of time.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 20:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Merge, or rather, selective merge, to
Poser. Books like
[1] claim there is a huge mature market for poser figures and looking at sites like
Renderosity, HiveWire 3D, Poser World, RuntimeDNA, and YURdigita, I believe it. But I am having a hard time finding reliable sources about the history of these add-ons or commentary on the market. Basic facts that there is a sizable market, program compatibility, etc., are verifiable and per
WP:PRESERVE, verifiable material should be preserved where possible rather than deleted. The large table of models is probably
WP:SYNTH and should be left out of the merge. The table could be usefully transwikied to
the poser figures page at Poserpedia. "Poser figure" is a plausible search term, so a redirect is warranted, too. --
Mark viking (
talk) 20:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
The article was started way back at 05:58, 20 July 2007. At 08:59, 18 October 2010 it was text-merged into article
Poser, but since then someone or people have deleted the list of Poser characters out of article
Poser.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 22:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
A user wants to get rid of this page and redirect it to page
Poser, claiming "does not meet
WP:GNG", but often one man's trivia is another man's important matter, and very many people use
Poser, and a history of its major posable characters would be useful to them. This information is not currently in page
Poser. Best discuss it here.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 16:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Speedy close to either delete or redirect to
Poser. No reliable sources at all.
GDallimore (
Talk) 16:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Many people who have used Poser down the years will provide plenty of reliable sources.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 16:55, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment: Is the concept notable, in the same way that
Resource fork or
JAR (file format) is notable, it should stay. If it's not, it shouldn't. If a cottage industry has in fact developed,[citation needed] then it is probably notable and reliable, independent references should exist. I'm tempted to !vote as "weak keep, without prejudice for re-nomination after 30 days" to give editors more time to improve this article, then use the lack of improvement after 30 days as evidence of it being less notable than it appears. But I'll just keep this as a "comment" for now.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 19:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
How long do you want to wait, exactly? The article existed for at least 2 years in its current form before I merged it to Poser in 2010. No supporting sources have been added to either article in the last 4 years either.
GDallimore (
Talk) 20:17, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Now that attention has been drawn to the issue, a month is plenty of time.
davidwr/(
talk)/(
contribs) 20:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
Merge, or rather, selective merge, to
Poser. Books like
[1] claim there is a huge mature market for poser figures and looking at sites like
Renderosity, HiveWire 3D, Poser World, RuntimeDNA, and YURdigita, I believe it. But I am having a hard time finding reliable sources about the history of these add-ons or commentary on the market. Basic facts that there is a sizable market, program compatibility, etc., are verifiable and per
WP:PRESERVE, verifiable material should be preserved where possible rather than deleted. The large table of models is probably
WP:SYNTH and should be left out of the merge. The table could be usefully transwikied to
the poser figures page at Poserpedia. "Poser figure" is a plausible search term, so a redirect is warranted, too. --
Mark viking (
talk) 20:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
The article was started way back at 05:58, 20 July 2007. At 08:59, 18 October 2010 it was text-merged into article
Poser, but since then someone or people have deleted the list of Poser characters out of article
Poser.
Anthony Appleyard (
talk) 22:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.