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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 01:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, tagged for notability, no change in notability since. No significant coverage, no evidence of multiple/significant roles or any musical significance. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 07:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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- This isn't a question of whether the article should be deleted, as at worst the result should be redirecting to List of BNK48 members. That said, I'd argue keep since the subject has had multiple significant works as an individual, outside of the group. Her role in the TV series One Year (itself notable but lacking an article) was significant enough for a Best Newcomer award at the 2020 Asian Contents Awards, [1] and she plays the lead role in Bad Genius: The Series. With her starring role in the upcoming film OMG!: Oh My Girl, [2], her career should satisfy WP:NACTOR independently of her BNK48 membership. Even discounting that, there's plenty enough Thai-language coverage of her to satisfy the GNG. [3] [4] [5] [6] -- Paul_012 ( talk) 14:47, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Paul_012 references. -- Lerdsuwa ( talk) 02:40, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The Busan Asian Contents Awards is not a blue-linked award. First source 'The Cloud' is an interview. The second is an interview about her makeup routine. Third Kapook! is indeed a piece about her beauty and career - and fourth Sanook is a word-for-word carbon copy of Kappok! - a photo feature which sounds very much like it was derived from the same press handout. Starlet to watch? Maybe. GNG pass? No. Best
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- Plenty of news coverage from Google News [7]. Sanook is word-for-word copy of Kapook? Even Google Translate should show different content. It's like saying an article in Wikipedia is carbon copy of the corresponding Brittanica one. -- Lerdsuwa ( talk) 17:40, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as has multiple significant roles in notable productions as per WP:NACTOR. Some of the references are better than others but there is enough for a keep, in my view Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:59, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further discussion may be useful to reach consensus. Suggest review of the sources provided, which do not seem sufficient for notability, being lightweight celebrity/beauty articles.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TigerShark ( talk) 14:28, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Regarding potential sources, the The Cloud interview is the most in-depth among those linked above. While it is an interview, it does provide a substantial introduction (seven short paragraphs) and many background statements presented in the interviewer's voice, which should count as a secondary source. The The Standard makeup interview has a very brief introduction that isn't in-depth. The Kapook and Sanook pieces are their usual celebrity profile pieces. The Kapook one is more detailed and in-depth, covering all of her personal and work life, while the Sanook one has a short list and a paragraph covering the basic biographical details and some tidbits of her personal life. Both come with the usual caveat of Thai celebrity columns: they don't score the best in the reliability department, and often rely on information already present on the web. On the whole, though, considering these together with general news coverage, I do think there's enough to satisfy the notability guideline. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 09:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 01:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG, tagged for notability, no change in notability since. No significant coverage, no evidence of multiple/significant roles or any musical significance. Alexandermcnabb ( talk) 07:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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- This isn't a question of whether the article should be deleted, as at worst the result should be redirecting to List of BNK48 members. That said, I'd argue keep since the subject has had multiple significant works as an individual, outside of the group. Her role in the TV series One Year (itself notable but lacking an article) was significant enough for a Best Newcomer award at the 2020 Asian Contents Awards, [1] and she plays the lead role in Bad Genius: The Series. With her starring role in the upcoming film OMG!: Oh My Girl, [2], her career should satisfy WP:NACTOR independently of her BNK48 membership. Even discounting that, there's plenty enough Thai-language coverage of her to satisfy the GNG. [3] [4] [5] [6] -- Paul_012 ( talk) 14:47, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Paul_012 references. -- Lerdsuwa ( talk) 02:40, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The Busan Asian Contents Awards is not a blue-linked award. First source 'The Cloud' is an interview. The second is an interview about her makeup routine. Third Kapook! is indeed a piece about her beauty and career - and fourth Sanook is a word-for-word carbon copy of Kappok! - a photo feature which sounds very much like it was derived from the same press handout. Starlet to watch? Maybe. GNG pass? No. Best
Alexandermcnabb (
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13:18, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Plenty of news coverage from Google News [7]. Sanook is word-for-word copy of Kapook? Even Google Translate should show different content. It's like saying an article in Wikipedia is carbon copy of the corresponding Brittanica one. -- Lerdsuwa ( talk) 17:40, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as has multiple significant roles in notable productions as per WP:NACTOR. Some of the references are better than others but there is enough for a keep, in my view Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:59, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further discussion may be useful to reach consensus. Suggest review of the sources provided, which do not seem sufficient for notability, being lightweight celebrity/beauty articles.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TigerShark ( talk) 14:28, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Regarding potential sources, the The Cloud interview is the most in-depth among those linked above. While it is an interview, it does provide a substantial introduction (seven short paragraphs) and many background statements presented in the interviewer's voice, which should count as a secondary source. The The Standard makeup interview has a very brief introduction that isn't in-depth. The Kapook and Sanook pieces are their usual celebrity profile pieces. The Kapook one is more detailed and in-depth, covering all of her personal and work life, while the Sanook one has a short list and a paragraph covering the basic biographical details and some tidbits of her personal life. Both come with the usual caveat of Thai celebrity columns: they don't score the best in the reliability department, and often rely on information already present on the web. On the whole, though, considering these together with general news coverage, I do think there's enough to satisfy the notability guideline. -- Paul_012 ( talk) 09:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.