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The result was keep. —ScottyWong— 17:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Playboy (Trey Songz song)
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This song fails WP:GNG and WP:NSONG. Although the article says it charted on two different Billboard lists, I followed the links and I don't see it on either one. If someone can find evidence that it did appear on Billboard, that could indicate notability per NSONG. I vote it be deleted or maybe merged to Tremaine the Album. Citrivescence ( talk) 01:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep - The Billboard chart positions are false and could not be verified. I have removed the chart. However, as the song has enough significant coverage in reliable sources, I vote to keep it. Boredathome101 ( talk) 08:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - Can you provide links to the reliable coverage you're referring to? I don't see any in the article itself and I don't see any in a Google search. The RS in the article are about the album, not the song.
Citrivescence (
talk)
19:30, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- This is correct –
WP:NSONG states:
"If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created."
And it appears that this is the case... the only reliable sources mention the song within the context of the complete album review. Richard3120 ( talk) 20:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)-
HotNewHipHop is a well known HipHop publications, nominated for BET awards
[1].
Rap-up is in-depth about the track.
VIBE is a well known publication, but just a mention of the track.
USA Today mentions the track. And
AXS It is in-depth about the track. If you don't know that site, you should not be doing music AFD voting.
Webmaster862 (
talk)
03:25, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- The HotNewHipHop and Rap-Up articles really aren't in-depth at all, they are the standard promotional "watch the artist's latest video below" and say barely anything about the track. AXS is a concert ticket website – not only are they not considered a journalistic source, they aren't independent either, because quote obviously it is in their interests to say good things about the artist and their music in order to sell tickets for their shows. Richard3120 ( talk) 23:07, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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HotNewHipHop is a well known HipHop publications, nominated for BET awards
[1].
Rap-up is in-depth about the track.
VIBE is a well known publication, but just a mention of the track.
USA Today mentions the track. And
AXS It is in-depth about the track. If you don't know that site, you should not be doing music AFD voting.
Webmaster862 (
talk)
03:25, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- This is correct –
WP:NSONG states:
- Keep Meets WP:NSONG with sources mentioned by Boredathome. They're reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP ( talk) 01:08, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Extraordinary Writ (
talk)
04:01, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I feel this passes WP:GNG. For an uncontroversial topic like a song, I think the supplied references are sufficient. NemesisAT ( talk) 17:04, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. —ScottyWong— 17:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Playboy (Trey Songz song)
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This song fails WP:GNG and WP:NSONG. Although the article says it charted on two different Billboard lists, I followed the links and I don't see it on either one. If someone can find evidence that it did appear on Billboard, that could indicate notability per NSONG. I vote it be deleted or maybe merged to Tremaine the Album. Citrivescence ( talk) 01:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Citrivescence ( talk) 01:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Citrivescence ( talk) 01:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - The Billboard chart positions are false and could not be verified. I have removed the chart. However, as the song has enough significant coverage in reliable sources, I vote to keep it. Boredathome101 ( talk) 08:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - Can you provide links to the reliable coverage you're referring to? I don't see any in the article itself and I don't see any in a Google search. The RS in the article are about the album, not the song.
Citrivescence (
talk)
19:30, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- This is correct –
WP:NSONG states:
"If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created."
And it appears that this is the case... the only reliable sources mention the song within the context of the complete album review. Richard3120 ( talk) 20:27, 21 October 2021 (UTC)-
HotNewHipHop is a well known HipHop publications, nominated for BET awards
[1].
Rap-up is in-depth about the track.
VIBE is a well known publication, but just a mention of the track.
USA Today mentions the track. And
AXS It is in-depth about the track. If you don't know that site, you should not be doing music AFD voting.
Webmaster862 (
talk)
03:25, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- The HotNewHipHop and Rap-Up articles really aren't in-depth at all, they are the standard promotional "watch the artist's latest video below" and say barely anything about the track. AXS is a concert ticket website – not only are they not considered a journalistic source, they aren't independent either, because quote obviously it is in their interests to say good things about the artist and their music in order to sell tickets for their shows. Richard3120 ( talk) 23:07, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
-
HotNewHipHop is a well known HipHop publications, nominated for BET awards
[1].
Rap-up is in-depth about the track.
VIBE is a well known publication, but just a mention of the track.
USA Today mentions the track. And
AXS It is in-depth about the track. If you don't know that site, you should not be doing music AFD voting.
Webmaster862 (
talk)
03:25, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- This is correct –
WP:NSONG states:
- Keep Meets WP:NSONG with sources mentioned by Boredathome. They're reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP ( talk) 01:08, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Extraordinary Writ (
talk)
04:01, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I feel this passes WP:GNG. For an uncontroversial topic like a song, I think the supplied references are sufficient. NemesisAT ( talk) 17:04, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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