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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 22:09, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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Complately unsourced. I prodded the article, but it was deprodded by Kvng, who posted some links on the article's talk page. The text of the first link there seems to a copy of our article (the text here dates from 2006, wheras the Wayback Machine has no record of the United States Ghost Towns page prior to 2021), and none of the other links lead to usable reliable sources. There's no Pittsburg, New Mexico, in the current GNIS database, though The Anomebot2 added coordinates, supposedly drawn from GNIS, for a location that's in a county far distant from the one that the article says this Pittsburg was in. I've not been able to locate any reliable sources, so I'm saying that the article fails WP:GEOLAND. Deor ( talk) 20:10, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and New Mexico. Hey man im josh ( talk) 20:14, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- •Comment- It is on
Google Maps.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
21:37, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- •Comment- I also found
this.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
21:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Both of those are a different place, in Sierra County, not Colfax County. (The location corresponds to the coordinates that TheAnomebot2 erroneously added to the article.) And I just noticed that the second link on the article's talk page is for a Pittsburg in Sierra County, not for this supposed one in Colfax County.
Deor (
talk)
23:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- oh oops PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk) 02:22, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Both of those are a different place, in Sierra County, not Colfax County. (The location corresponds to the coordinates that TheAnomebot2 erroneously added to the article.) And I just noticed that the second link on the article's talk page is for a Pittsburg in Sierra County, not for this supposed one in Colfax County.
Deor (
talk)
23:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- •Comment- I also found
this.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
21:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Can confirm that Colfax County and Sierra County are at opposite ends of the state. Other than that, inclined to delete if the text can't be cited. Elinruby ( talk) 07:38, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Possibly Could Be Cerillos, New Mexico:
this link refers to Cerrillos as "little Pittsburg"
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk) 02:35, 14 May 2023 (
- None of the citations you added to the article is a reliable source. And the second one is (as I said in my nomination above) apparently a copy of our article; it's identical in wording, in any event. And Cerrillos isn't in Colfax County, either. Deor ( talk) 02:57, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Cerillos is on the old highway (Rt 14) from Albuquerque to Santa Fe. It's very small but definitely not a pile of rubble; I took my kids to a petting zoo there. I'll ask someone about Pittsburg who might know, but New Mexico does empty better than anywhere else, and Colfax County is particularly empty, so I suspect I don't know anyone either who knows whether there was once a Pittsburg there. Elinruby ( talk) 18:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC) I am
- The person I asked didn't know but sent me a link to the Wikipedia page <g> Elinruby ( talk) 21:40, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Thanks for the research. No one has found reliable evidence of
WP:EXISTENCE. ~
Kvng (
talk)
21:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have an alternate solution, we can rewrite the artcle to be the pittsburg in Sierra County New Mexico.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
18:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- It might be better to just let this one die and then start the new one. Having two separate topics in the article history may not be ideal. ~ Kvng ( talk) 04:07, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have an alternate solution, we can rewrite the artcle to be the pittsburg in Sierra County New Mexico.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
18:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- •Delete- based on the reasearch by those of us who have participated in this discussion, we can find no evidence that this place exists. PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk) 18:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Am told than the following book calls it a farming settlement:
Titre The Place Names of New Mexico Auteur Robert Julyan Édition révisée Éditeur UNM Press, 1996 ISBN 0826316891, 9780826316899 Longueur 385 pages Elinruby ( talk) 09:23, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: I think the above shows this needs to meet GNG per NGEO, I'm not seeing references that meet GNG and the above did a complete BEFORE. Ping if sources are added to the article. // Timothy :: talk 17:43, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 22:09, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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Complately unsourced. I prodded the article, but it was deprodded by Kvng, who posted some links on the article's talk page. The text of the first link there seems to a copy of our article (the text here dates from 2006, wheras the Wayback Machine has no record of the United States Ghost Towns page prior to 2021), and none of the other links lead to usable reliable sources. There's no Pittsburg, New Mexico, in the current GNIS database, though The Anomebot2 added coordinates, supposedly drawn from GNIS, for a location that's in a county far distant from the one that the article says this Pittsburg was in. I've not been able to locate any reliable sources, so I'm saying that the article fails WP:GEOLAND. Deor ( talk) 20:10, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and New Mexico. Hey man im josh ( talk) 20:14, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- •Comment- It is on
Google Maps.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
21:37, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- •Comment- I also found
this.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
21:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Both of those are a different place, in Sierra County, not Colfax County. (The location corresponds to the coordinates that TheAnomebot2 erroneously added to the article.) And I just noticed that the second link on the article's talk page is for a Pittsburg in Sierra County, not for this supposed one in Colfax County.
Deor (
talk)
23:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- oh oops PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk) 02:22, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Both of those are a different place, in Sierra County, not Colfax County. (The location corresponds to the coordinates that TheAnomebot2 erroneously added to the article.) And I just noticed that the second link on the article's talk page is for a Pittsburg in Sierra County, not for this supposed one in Colfax County.
Deor (
talk)
23:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- •Comment- I also found
this.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
21:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Can confirm that Colfax County and Sierra County are at opposite ends of the state. Other than that, inclined to delete if the text can't be cited. Elinruby ( talk) 07:38, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Possibly Could Be Cerillos, New Mexico:
this link refers to Cerrillos as "little Pittsburg"
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk) 02:35, 14 May 2023 (
- None of the citations you added to the article is a reliable source. And the second one is (as I said in my nomination above) apparently a copy of our article; it's identical in wording, in any event. And Cerrillos isn't in Colfax County, either. Deor ( talk) 02:57, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Cerillos is on the old highway (Rt 14) from Albuquerque to Santa Fe. It's very small but definitely not a pile of rubble; I took my kids to a petting zoo there. I'll ask someone about Pittsburg who might know, but New Mexico does empty better than anywhere else, and Colfax County is particularly empty, so I suspect I don't know anyone either who knows whether there was once a Pittsburg there. Elinruby ( talk) 18:48, 14 May 2023 (UTC) I am
- The person I asked didn't know but sent me a link to the Wikipedia page <g> Elinruby ( talk) 21:40, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Thanks for the research. No one has found reliable evidence of
WP:EXISTENCE. ~
Kvng (
talk)
21:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have an alternate solution, we can rewrite the artcle to be the pittsburg in Sierra County New Mexico.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
18:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- It might be better to just let this one die and then start the new one. Having two separate topics in the article history may not be ideal. ~ Kvng ( talk) 04:07, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have an alternate solution, we can rewrite the artcle to be the pittsburg in Sierra County New Mexico.
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
18:57, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- •Delete- based on the reasearch by those of us who have participated in this discussion, we can find no evidence that this place exists. PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk) 18:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Am told than the following book calls it a farming settlement:
Titre The Place Names of New Mexico Auteur Robert Julyan Édition révisée Éditeur UNM Press, 1996 ISBN 0826316891, 9780826316899 Longueur 385 pages Elinruby ( talk) 09:23, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: I think the above shows this needs to meet GNG per NGEO, I'm not seeing references that meet GNG and the above did a complete BEFORE. Ping if sources are added to the article. // Timothy :: talk 17:43, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.