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The result was delete. Mz7 ( talk) 22:25, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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Non-notable youtuber, despite the view count. I can't find any non-trivial coverage under his YT name or his real name. Fails notability. Praxidicae ( talk) 22:41, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- I understand your concern, but after reading Wikipedia's criteria for notability, it appears that multiple (reasonably substantial but not in-depth) sources can be combined to demonstrate notability. In addition to the in-depth interview cited in the article, it appears that there were quite a few articles that met this criteria:
- Partially about PhilosophyTube:
- https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2019/03/24/5-fantastic-youtubers-fighting-the-spread-of-alt-right-propaganda/
- https://fstoppers.com/education/photography-art-do-you-even-know-what-art-300723
- https://teneightymagazine.com/2018/10/31/seven-edutubers-you-should-be-watching/
- Mention PhilosophyTube:
- https://www.theguardian.com/games/2019/jan/25/success-for-me-wouldve-been-three-grand-the-gamer-who-raised-340000-for-a-trans-charity-hbomberguy
- https://www.theguardian.com/games/2019/jan/22/how-a-57-hour-donkey-kong-twitch-stream-struck-a-blow-against-gamergate
- http://felixonline.co.uk/articles/2019-02-08-lefty-youtubers-event-draws-large-crowds/
- https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/yang-gang-education
- This is an addition to his IMDb page (as linked to in the article), subscriber count, and view count. I think combined these are evidence enough to justify an article.
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User:EthanMagnuson (
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23:07, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia. You might want to read up on WP:RS. iMDb isn't a reliable source, subscriber and view count aren't measures of notability. Forbes is a listicle by a contributor, not editorial staff, is questionable and more of a fluffy blurb, a listicle and the rest are mentions. Praxidicae ( talk) 23:30, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Still not enough. Not substantial. The best is the Guardian but it only mentions tangentially. Forbes is maybe okay, but it's only a start. The rest I'm not so sure are RS. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 23:23, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- The Forbes piece is contributor content and not editorial staff (to my knowledge.) Praxidicae ( talk) 23:31, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Interviews are primary sources that do not establish notability. What is needed is significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, and that is lacking. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:00, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete Per nom and Cullen328 — Rutebega ( talk) 05:53, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: I'm a fan of Olly and I've looked before at whether there's enough sources for an article and decided against it. The sources included here aren't enough, in my opinion ( passing mentions don't count towards notability). — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 23:11, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: Alright, I've been convinced. Hopefully there will be sufficient content in the future to justify a page. User:EthanMagnuson ( talk) 17:10, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination since subject fails WP:WEB, WP:BIO, WP:GROUP, and WP:NMEDIA. Even the sole defender of its notability admits the text is not worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. It may well be a case of WP:TOOSOON. - The Gnome ( talk) 12:16, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Mz7 ( talk) 22:25, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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Non-notable youtuber, despite the view count. I can't find any non-trivial coverage under his YT name or his real name. Fails notability. Praxidicae ( talk) 22:41, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- I understand your concern, but after reading Wikipedia's criteria for notability, it appears that multiple (reasonably substantial but not in-depth) sources can be combined to demonstrate notability. In addition to the in-depth interview cited in the article, it appears that there were quite a few articles that met this criteria:
- Partially about PhilosophyTube:
- https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2019/03/24/5-fantastic-youtubers-fighting-the-spread-of-alt-right-propaganda/
- https://fstoppers.com/education/photography-art-do-you-even-know-what-art-300723
- https://teneightymagazine.com/2018/10/31/seven-edutubers-you-should-be-watching/
- Mention PhilosophyTube:
- https://www.theguardian.com/games/2019/jan/25/success-for-me-wouldve-been-three-grand-the-gamer-who-raised-340000-for-a-trans-charity-hbomberguy
- https://www.theguardian.com/games/2019/jan/22/how-a-57-hour-donkey-kong-twitch-stream-struck-a-blow-against-gamergate
- http://felixonline.co.uk/articles/2019-02-08-lefty-youtubers-event-draws-large-crowds/
- https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/yang-gang-education
- This is an addition to his IMDb page (as linked to in the article), subscriber count, and view count. I think combined these are evidence enough to justify an article.
-
User:EthanMagnuson (
talk)
23:07, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia. You might want to read up on WP:RS. iMDb isn't a reliable source, subscriber and view count aren't measures of notability. Forbes is a listicle by a contributor, not editorial staff, is questionable and more of a fluffy blurb, a listicle and the rest are mentions. Praxidicae ( talk) 23:30, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Still not enough. Not substantial. The best is the Guardian but it only mentions tangentially. Forbes is maybe okay, but it's only a start. The rest I'm not so sure are RS. Harizotoh9 ( talk) 23:23, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- The Forbes piece is contributor content and not editorial staff (to my knowledge.) Praxidicae ( talk) 23:31, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Interviews are primary sources that do not establish notability. What is needed is significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, and that is lacking. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:00, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete Per nom and Cullen328 — Rutebega ( talk) 05:53, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: I'm a fan of Olly and I've looked before at whether there's enough sources for an article and decided against it. The sources included here aren't enough, in my opinion ( passing mentions don't count towards notability). — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 23:11, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: Alright, I've been convinced. Hopefully there will be sufficient content in the future to justify a page. User:EthanMagnuson ( talk) 17:10, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination since subject fails WP:WEB, WP:BIO, WP:GROUP, and WP:NMEDIA. Even the sole defender of its notability admits the text is not worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. It may well be a case of WP:TOOSOON. - The Gnome ( talk) 12:16, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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