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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 20:22, 26 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Pedro Hernández (knight)

Pedro Hernández (knight) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG: Sole source is an apparent vanity published book about the author's family history, which claims the subject of this article as their putative progenitor. Zero results for the subject, the author, "Ninjo Vague", or "Vito Ninovagio" on Google Scholar, nothing significant in a Google Books search. Previously nominated for PROD, but I'm bringing it here to AfD following comments from the initial editor on the article talk page. My assessment of the subject's notability is unchanged, but the deletion is clearly no longer uncontroversial so PROD is inappropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 18:31, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Italy, and Spain. signed, Rosguill talk 18:31, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The name Pedro Hernandez appears in books but none from this time period. As a Spanish name there would generally be more than the first/last name, and that might help find this person in historical works. Also, it isn't clear to me from this article if 1499 is the birth or the death date, and that would help connect this PH to any of the ones we do find. Without more sources, though, this article cannot stand. Lamona ( talk) 22:35, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply
Also, the book cited here is self-published by the "Ninivaggi" foundation, so not an independent source and possibly not a reliable source. I can't access it so I can't make a further analysis, but it does not appear in WorldCat, Amazon, nor in the Italian library union catalog, SBN. Lamona ( talk) 22:42, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete -- It is quite possible that what is described is true. However the core of the article is about the knight acknowledging his paternity of a child. There is no indication that either the father or the child was notable. Conclusion NN. Peterkingiron ( talk) 22:11, 20 November 2022 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 20:22, 26 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Pedro Hernández (knight)

Pedro Hernández (knight) (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Does not meet WP:GNG: Sole source is an apparent vanity published book about the author's family history, which claims the subject of this article as their putative progenitor. Zero results for the subject, the author, "Ninjo Vague", or "Vito Ninovagio" on Google Scholar, nothing significant in a Google Books search. Previously nominated for PROD, but I'm bringing it here to AfD following comments from the initial editor on the article talk page. My assessment of the subject's notability is unchanged, but the deletion is clearly no longer uncontroversial so PROD is inappropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 18:31, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Italy, and Spain. signed, Rosguill talk 18:31, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The name Pedro Hernandez appears in books but none from this time period. As a Spanish name there would generally be more than the first/last name, and that might help find this person in historical works. Also, it isn't clear to me from this article if 1499 is the birth or the death date, and that would help connect this PH to any of the ones we do find. Without more sources, though, this article cannot stand. Lamona ( talk) 22:35, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply
Also, the book cited here is self-published by the "Ninivaggi" foundation, so not an independent source and possibly not a reliable source. I can't access it so I can't make a further analysis, but it does not appear in WorldCat, Amazon, nor in the Italian library union catalog, SBN. Lamona ( talk) 22:42, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Delete -- It is quite possible that what is described is true. However the core of the article is about the knight acknowledging his paternity of a child. There is no indication that either the father or the child was notable. Conclusion NN. Peterkingiron ( talk) 22:11, 20 November 2022 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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